Pats Cheating Comfirmed

[PizzaDoughz]

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

[Hootie]

It didn't end up effecting the integrity of that specific game. Totally agree. However, if it was blatant cheating by the Patriots to try and gain an edge, even if it didn't end up mattering, punishment (and heavy punishment) is in store.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by unlurking

What the ****?!

So I guess Taco was right and the US government is at fault for 9/11 since they didn't stop it.

Wow.

Whose responsibility is it to check for abnormalities: The NFL and its referees or the NE Patriots?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

It didn't end up effecting the integrity of that specific game. Totally agree. However, if it was blatant cheating by the Patriots to try and gain an edge, even if it didn't end up mattering, punishment (and heavy punishment) is in store.

If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough.

I don't excuse the Patriots but I also don't excuse the refs.

[Hootie]

there was a monsoon for the game ... deflating the balls made them easier to grip and easier to catch in the rain

this has been discussed ad nauseam ... I don't understand what's so hard to comprehend

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by PizzaDoughz

It's funny the Pats defenders latest excuse is essentially that the NFL and it's officials are to blame for not catching the cheaters in time.

No shit. I don't know what the **** is going on with people?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by unlurking

So I guess Taco was right and the US government is at fault for 9/11 since they didn't stop it.

Wow.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough.

I don't excuse the Patriots but I also don't excuse the refs.

I'm kind of tired of that, though ...

I kind of agree, as well.

But then why did we just spend an entire decade on a witch hunt ruining guys like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens etc etc etc because they were cheating?

people were throwing syringes at Bonds while he was playing

it was basically life ruining ... and half of the players were doing it

yet, some got their lives ruined, and others didn't

I don't buy that mantra anymore. If you cheat, get caught ... you pay the price.

If New England is to found to have blatantly cheated, they need to pay the price. If the officials didn't check the balls before the game, they need to pay the price. I mean, that's the bottom line if you ask me.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by PizzaDoughz

It's funny the Pats defenders latest excuse is essentially that the NFL and it's officials are to blame for not catching the cheaters in time.

It's the OFFICIAL'S and the NFL's job to maintain the "integrity" of the game.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'm kind of tired of that, though ...

I kind of agree, as well.

But then why did we just spend an entire decade on a witch hunt ruining guys like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens etc etc etc because they were cheating?

people were throwing syringes at Bonds while he was playing

it was basically life ruining ... and half of the players were doing it

yet, some got their lives ruined, and others didn't

I don't buy that mantra anymore. If you cheat, get caught ... you pay the price.

If New England is to found to have blatantly cheated, they need to pay the price. If the officials didn't check the balls before the game, they need to pay the price. I mean, that's the bottom line if you ask me.

I agree. MLB looked the other way and allowed it to happen, then later said "No you d'n't!". It was nonsense.

But if the NFL really cared about the "Integrity of the Game", how difficult would it be to have a ref check the balls before game time?

[Hootie]

11 of the 12 balls were all exactly under-inflated by the same amount...

so either the Patriots cheated after the balls were inspected ... or the Patriots cheated, knowing the balls weren't going to be properly inspected

if it's the latter? Well, I guess I'd be more ok with it.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Whose responsibility is it to check for abnormalities: The NFL and its referees or the NE Patriots?

JFC this is stupid. They checked pre-game. Would you prefer an extra 2 minute timeout before each drive while they check all the balls again? This is absolute bullshit and you know it.

For someone who has had massive hissie fits about people pirating media you should just shut the **** up since you didn't catch them.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I agree. MLB looked the other way and allowed it to happen, then later said "No you d'n't!". It was nonsense.

But if the NFL really cared about the "Integrity of the Game", how difficult would it be to have a ref check the balls before game time?

well that's what I need to find out before I jump to any conclusions

if the refs didn't check the balls, it's more on them, for sure

I still think it's a pretty seedy move, but I'd be more apt to just laugh at how much of a genius Belichick is for knowing the balls he submitted before a monsoon game weren't going to be properly checked by a lazy official

if he really pays that much attention to detail ... I mean ... is it any wonder the Pats win every ****ing year?

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough.

I don't excuse the Patriots but I also don't excuse the refs.

You absolutely are excusing the Patriots though.

[WakkaWakka]

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Your logic is to blame enforcement, and not the perpetrators. That is absolutely ****ed up.