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Old 05-18-2018, 09:35 AM  
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At least 8 killed in Santa Fe High School shooting

At least 8 killed in Santa Fe High School shooting

http://abc13.com/live-coverage-at-le...oting/3490869/
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:49 PM   #106
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A second person is custody and believed to be a possible accomplice to the suspected gunman in the Texas school shooting, according to a law enforcement official said.

This person, who is 18 years old, is not the shooter, the law enforcement official said.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:56 PM   #107
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  • Sawed off shotgun
  • Pipe bombs
  • Pressure cooker bombs

So, no mean looking "assault" rifle, and not just the use of guns. It'll be interesting as the anti-Trump, anti-NRA narrative develops to take those realities into account
I've been waiting on someone to use a shotgun, its truly the most effective close quarters weapon there is.

Damn that's got to be messy. Jesus I feel bad for everyone involved.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:02 PM   #108
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I've been waiting on someone to use a shotgun, its truly the most effective close quarters weapon there is.

Damn that's got to be messy. Jesus I feel bad for everyone involved.
I've thought the same thing since all this "assault rifle" nonsense has been the focus. I guess it was cool to own such a rifle, but anyone that knows anything about guns knows a pump shotgun can do much more damage in a classroom or hallway.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:03 PM   #109
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I guess the gun free zone sign fell down.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:07 PM   #110
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We protect our Banks - With men with guns

We protect our Politicians - With men with guns

We protect our Judges - With men with guns

We protect our airports - With men with guns

We protect our federal buildings - With men with guns




We protect our children with a sign that reads -- "Gun Free Zone"

And when something happens - We call men with guns
This.

But the opposition live in this fairy tale land of rainbow and flowers where if guns were banned, all would be peaceful.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:09 PM   #111
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Ban Baltic immigrants!!!
With a name like that you think he's a person of Baltic heritage?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:13 PM   #112
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I'm not placing the fault on gun owners. I'm not anti-gun or anti-gun owner.

But i understand that if guns are to exist, then they will be used to kill people.

There will ALWAYS be crazies. You can't possibly screen them all. You can't prevent this. You just can't.

We're always going to have guns. And we're always going to have crazies. So we're always going to have atrocities. It's really that simple.
In that vein, countries with gun bans still have these mass atrocities. They just use vehicles as the weapon of choice, or bombs, or fire, or whatever lunatics can get their hands on.

I'll take being armed with a chance of defending myself over being an unarmed sheep like the poor saps in other countries.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:14 PM   #113
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:15 PM   #114
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I'm trying to figure out WHY the number of shootings are occurring now, when they were a lot less prevalent 30 years ago. There were plenty of guns 30 years ago to get the job done if someone felt so inclined. I think it has a lot to do with narcissistic punks wanting instant celebrity status. "I'm not getting noticed, but this will do the trick."

We used to take our riffles and shotguns to high school, keep them in the gun racks of our trucks and hunt after school. How things have changed.
School shootings were actually a higher occurring thing 30 years ago. Just wasn't mass shootings like now, but more individual ones.

We didn't have mass media in the form we have now.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:19 PM   #115
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Yes let's turn our school into prisons.

Alternatively, we could have meaningful gun control laws like the rest of the modern world.
Interesting you call it a prison instead of a fortress.

When one is a structure designed to keep people IN at gunpoint (a prison) and the other is designed to keep undesirable people out.

So I assume you think we'd be fortifying these schools to harm children, because that's what prison implies. That these things would be done for the purpose of intimidating and imprisoning students.

You don't believe that. I know you don't.

Which makes you a dishonest person.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:20 PM   #116
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:21 PM   #117
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School shootings were actually a higher occurring thing 30 years ago. Just wasn't mass shootings like now, but more individual ones.

We didn't have mass media in the form we have now.
I'm 99% certain this is not true.

Gonna have to insist on evidence for a claim that school shootings were more commonplace in the 80's. I'm open to changing my mind, but I'm fairly sure it's just not true.

A shooting happened at my school in the 80's and it was an enormous national story because of how uncommon it was.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:21 PM   #118
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How can we get all of our legal gun owners to lock up their guns at all times?
Convert schools to a single port of entry?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:25 PM   #119
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I'm 99% certain this is not true.

Gonna have to insist on evidence for a claim that school shootings were more commonplace in the 80's. I'm open to changing my mind, but I'm fairly sure it's just not true.

A shooting happened at my school in the 80's and it was an enormous national story because of how uncommon it was.
Fish posted a link about this, earlier in the thread.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:25 PM   #120
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Yes let's turn our school into prisons.

Alternatively, we could have meaningful gun control laws like the rest of the modern world.
The guns used were a shotgun and handgun. Gun control will never get rid of those. So how do you suggest gun control will fix this?
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