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Old 03-18-2018, 12:00 PM  
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Trump firing Mueller would be 'the beginning of the end of his presidency'

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/18/polit...ntv/index.html

Graham: Trump firing Mueller would be 'the beginning of the end of his presidency'

(CNN)Sen. Lindsey Graham gave a stern warning Sunday to President Donald Trump against firing special counsel Robert Mueller.

"As I said before, if he tried to do that, that would be the beginning of the end of his presidency," the South Carolina Republican said on CNN's "State of the Union."

"The only reason that Mr. Mueller could be dismissed is for cause. I see no cause when it comes to Mr. Mueller," Graham said, later adding he believed the Mueller was "doing a good job."

Graham called for Mueller to be able to carry out his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election "independent of any political influence."

"I pledge to the American people, as a Republican, to make sure that Mr. Mueller can continue to do his job without any interference," he said.
Graham's defense of Mueller comes in the wake of the President's latest attacks suggesting partisan bias on the special counsel.

"Why does the Mueller team have 13 hardened Democrats, some big Crooked Hillary supporters, and Zero Republicans? Another Dem recently added ... does anyone think this is fair? And yet, there is NO COLLUSION!," Trump wrote on Twitter.

Trump's criticism of Mueller, a Republican, also came a day after his personal lawyer, John Dowd, called for an end to the special counsel's probe.

On Saturday, CNN learned that Mueller had interviewed former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and asked about the firing of FBI Director James Comey. McCabe was fired by Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Friday night after being long derided by the President.

Graham said on "State of the Union" that the Senate Judiciary Committee should hold a hearing on McCabe's firing to "make sure it was not politically motivated."

"I think we owe it to the average American to have a hearing in the Judiciary Committee, for Mr. Sessions, Attorney General Sessions, comes forward with whatever documentation he has about the firing and give Mr. McCabe a chance to defend himself," Graham said."I believe when it comes to this issue, we need as much transparency as possible, to make sure that it was not politically motivated.

Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont issued a similar call to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley on Saturday.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:37 PM   #46
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He isn't calling for a special counsel.

McCabe's firing certainly seems justified, yes. That doesn't mean it's exclusive of being possibly politically-motivated or pushed by Trump. He certainly seems pleased by his firing, doesn't he.
Yes, he is calling for a second special counsel... watched the interview with him and Grassley in real time
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:47 PM   #47
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Yes, he is calling for a second special counsel... watched the interview with him and Grassley in real time
Okay. That isn't what the article states.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:49 PM   #48
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Ah, good ol' Grahamnesty running his ****ing mouth again.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:54 PM   #49
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Mueller should stay but there needs to be a time limit placed upon him. Shit or get of the pot. There's absolutely zero justification for allowing an endless "investigation" just to smear a President.


This should never be allowed to become commonplace.
Time limit? Did you say time limit?

The Watergate investigation lasted two years, The Benghazi investigation lasted four years. This investigation is a little over a year old. Calling it "endless" is just plain dishonest and stupid.
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Old 03-18-2018, 02:02 PM   #50
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Time limit? Did you say time limit?

The Watergate investigation lasted two years, The Benghazi investigation lasted four years. This investigation is a little over a year old. Calling it "endless" is just plain dishonest and stupid.
Yup. Truth. Actually Mueller wasn't appointed until 5/17/2017....so the REAL investigation is only 10 months in...
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Old 03-18-2018, 02:59 PM   #51
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Time limit? Did you say time limit?

The Watergate investigation lasted two years, The Benghazi investigation lasted four years. This investigation is a little over a year old. Calling it "endless" is just plain dishonest and stupid.
Benghazi did not have a special counsel investigating it, did it?
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 03-18-2018, 03:01 PM   #52
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Yup. Truth. Actually Mueller wasn't appointed until 5/17/2017....so the REAL investigation is only 10 months in...
And you call yourself a Teacher? Do your kids know you willingly tell or support the telling of lies?

The investigation started long before Mueller. Remember? You guys swore Comey was fired because he was finding things on Trump!

Now you wanna move the goal posts some more.

FFS, have a little integrity for once.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 03-18-2018, 03:08 PM   #53
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The investigation started long before Mueller. Remember? You guys swore Comey was fired because he was finding things on Trump!

Now you wanna move the goal posts some more.

FFS, have a little integrity for once.
Comey was fired the week PRIOR. You are really gonna go out on that asinine limb, given numb-nuts Cadet Bone Spur has, only now, only been in office for 13 months? Given the fact you're quibbling over a couple of MONTHS....and feigning self-righteous phony indignation? Seriously....

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You are really gonna go out on that asinine limb, given numbnuts Cadet Bone Spur has only been in office for 13 months? Given the fact you're quibbling over a couple of MONTHS....and feigning self-righteous phony indignation? Serioulsly....

No, Kotter. I am not the one quibbling over a couple of months. You are the one claiming the "real investigation is only 10 months old". When you know the investigation started well before then.

I point out the actual facts and you are left to accusing me of quibbling over a few months.

If I am quibbling over a couple of months then why did you feel the need to point out the 10 months in the first place?
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 03-18-2018, 03:13 PM   #55
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No, Kotter. I am not the one quibbling over a couple of months. You are the one claiming the "real investigation is only 10 months old". When you know the investigation started well before then.

I point out the actual facts and you are left to accusing me of quibbling over a few months.

If I am quibbling over a couple of months then why did you feel the need to point out the 10 months in the first place?
BECAUSE you clowns that have been brainwashed by FOX keep implying this thing has been going on FOREVER....10 months or 13 months, whichever, is NOT even close.

It's laughable for your like-minded lame brains and for you to pretend otherwise...

The bottom-line is, Mueller's getting closer...so you guys are getting more nervous. That's why Trump is trying to set the stage to pull the plug...
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BECAUSE you clowns that have been brainwashed by FOX keep implying this thing has been going on FOREVER....10 months or 13 months, whichever, is NOT even close.

It's laughable for your like-minded lame brains and for you guys to pretend otherwise...
There is no brainwashing about it, Kotter. You tried to use Mueller as a reason to shorten the length of time the investigation has been going. That has nothing to do with Fox or brainwashing. That's basic math. Which I hope you do not teach.

And then you try to project your bullshit on others because others called you on your bullshit. Another fine trait as a Teacher you can be proud of.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Okay. That isn't what the article states.
Its from CNN, of course they're omitting pertinent details
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BECAUSE you clowns that have been brainwashed by FOX keep implying this thing has been going on FOREVER....10 months or 13 months, whichever, is NOT even close.

It's laughable for your like-minded lame brains and for you to pretend otherwise...

The bottom-line is, Mueller's getting closer...so you guys are getting more nervous. That's why Trump is trying to set the stage to pull the plug...
FOX NEWS!

BRAINWASHING!

You are such a bumbling boob, and mental oaf
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Why don't we just enact a permanent special counsel, every Chief Executive has a permanent personal investigator to make sure no one in their orbit has ever run afoul of the law?
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Why don't we just enact a permanent special counsel, every Chief Executive has a permanent personal investigator to make sure no one in their orbit has ever run afoul of the law?
Yeah thats pretty much where this is all leading, been saying for a while now that 'God help the next dem president'... because when you wage war like this, it IS going to come back on you
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