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Old 03-18-2018, 12:00 PM  
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Trump firing Mueller would be 'the beginning of the end of his presidency'

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/18/polit...ntv/index.html

Graham: Trump firing Mueller would be 'the beginning of the end of his presidency'

(CNN)Sen. Lindsey Graham gave a stern warning Sunday to President Donald Trump against firing special counsel Robert Mueller.

"As I said before, if he tried to do that, that would be the beginning of the end of his presidency," the South Carolina Republican said on CNN's "State of the Union."

"The only reason that Mr. Mueller could be dismissed is for cause. I see no cause when it comes to Mr. Mueller," Graham said, later adding he believed the Mueller was "doing a good job."

Graham called for Mueller to be able to carry out his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election "independent of any political influence."

"I pledge to the American people, as a Republican, to make sure that Mr. Mueller can continue to do his job without any interference," he said.
Graham's defense of Mueller comes in the wake of the President's latest attacks suggesting partisan bias on the special counsel.

"Why does the Mueller team have 13 hardened Democrats, some big Crooked Hillary supporters, and Zero Republicans? Another Dem recently added ... does anyone think this is fair? And yet, there is NO COLLUSION!," Trump wrote on Twitter.

Trump's criticism of Mueller, a Republican, also came a day after his personal lawyer, John Dowd, called for an end to the special counsel's probe.

On Saturday, CNN learned that Mueller had interviewed former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and asked about the firing of FBI Director James Comey. McCabe was fired by Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Friday night after being long derided by the President.

Graham said on "State of the Union" that the Senate Judiciary Committee should hold a hearing on McCabe's firing to "make sure it was not politically motivated."

"I think we owe it to the average American to have a hearing in the Judiciary Committee, for Mr. Sessions, Attorney General Sessions, comes forward with whatever documentation he has about the firing and give Mr. McCabe a chance to defend himself," Graham said."I believe when it comes to this issue, we need as much transparency as possible, to make sure that it was not politically motivated.

Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont issued a similar call to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley on Saturday.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:37 PM   #151
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My apologies. This is how I responded when Baby Lee asked that question earlier today:



Beyond that, I don't really have an end game. I'm not looking to get the election results overturned. I suppose my real "end game" is for Trump to get exposed as the person I believe him to be. If Trump is exonerated by Mueller, then I'd want him to stay in office and then get voted out in 2020 by people who think (like I do) that he is incompetent and unqualified, even if he didn't collude with Russia. If Mueller finds plenty of damning evidence against Trump, then I think he should be impeached and removed from office, and Pence should become the new President.
So if he lasts all four years he's still unqualified? I'll let the "incompetent" comment pass, I'm sure that's based in your dislike for his style, but "qualified" seems to be a moving target.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:38 PM   #152
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Beyond that, I don't really have an end game. I'm not looking to get the election results overturned. I suppose my real "end game" is for Trump to get exposed as the person I believe him to be. If Trump is exonerated by Mueller, then I'd want him to stay in office and then get voted out in 2020 by people who think (like I do) that he is incompetent and unqualified, even if he didn't collude with Russia. If Mueller finds plenty of damning evidence against Trump, then I think he should be impeached and removed from office, and Pence should become the new President.
100% spot on. Exactly.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:39 PM   #153
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:14 AM   #154
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So if he lasts all four years he's still unqualified? I'll let the "incompetent" comment pass, I'm sure that's based in your dislike for his style, but "qualified" seems to be a moving target.
That's a fair point. Perhaps instead of unqualified I should just say unfit.
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Old 03-19-2018, 06:50 AM   #155
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I guess technically anyone who's a natural US citizen and over the age limit is qualified.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:01 AM   #156
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It's a ****ing witch hunt that has led to pleas and indictment that have absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Get that through your ****ing head once and for all. The charges have absolutely nothing to do with Trump whatsoever.

You fail to grasp this for whatever reason.
If these were indictments against another people who worked for a POTUS other than one supported, I think you'd feel differently about that.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:15 AM   #157
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Sounds good to me. I'm on board.

The next time a Democrat President gets help from the Russians to win the election, asks the FBI Director to go easy on one of the main people in the campaign who worked with the Russians, asks the FBI Director for a loyalty oath, and then fires the FBI Director after he refuses to bend the knee, we damn well SHOULD appoint a special prosecutor.
I like how they pretend the GOP hasn't declared war on anything Democratic since the 90s. Clinton anyone?

Then there was the whole "We vow to make OBama a one term president and refuse to work with him on anything." And then the whole "We will refuse to even consider your S.C. nominee."

Again and again conservatives prove they are that nasty sniveling loudmouth asshole on the play ground running their mouth and being a dick to everyone, who then loudly and passionately cries to their mom when someone pushes back.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:20 AM   #158
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Can you read Trump's own words and honestly believe these are the words of someone who's got nothing to hide?

Mueller, a life long Republican who is overseen by a lifelong republican, aren't republicans anymore? (Zero Republicans on investigation)

Must be one of those alternative facts Babble lee wants to defend.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:46 AM   #159
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Mueller, a life long Republican who is overseen by a lifelong republican, aren't republicans anymore? (Zero Republicans on investigation)

Must be one of those alternative facts Babble lee wants to defend.

You still think rep vs dem matters?

The deep state has no party affiliation.
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Yes. Trump has lowered the bar.
Its not Trump that has lowered the bar, I assure you.
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Watching Lex and his merry band of libtards meltdown regularly makes we want to go vote for Trump again right now.

I have never seen a more pathetic display in the 15 years I have been a member here. Pretty comical.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:55 AM   #162
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I guess technically anyone who's a natural US citizen and over the age limit is qualified.
There is a difference between meeting legal requirements and being qualified. They are not the same thing. I am not qualified to be President, but I meet all of the legal requirements.
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I like how they pretend the GOP hasn't declared war on anything Democratic since the 90s. Clinton anyone?

Then there was the whole "We vow to make OBama a one term president and refuse to work with him on anything." And then the whole "We will refuse to even consider your S.C. nominee."

Again and again conservatives prove they are that nasty sniveling loudmouth asshole on the play ground running their mouth and being a dick to everyone, who then loudly and passionately cries to their mom when someone pushes back.
So as we see, even in lone's estimation the special counsel isn't about the rule of law, but a retributive declaration of war.

Thanks lone, your candor is appreciated.
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There is a difference between meeting legal requirements and being qualified. They are not the same thing. I am not qualified to be President, but I meet all of the legal requirements.
Do you have any reservations about explicitly restricting the task of governance to lifelong politicians?
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:08 AM   #165
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You still think rep vs dem matters?

The deep state has no party affiliation.
"I" still think?

Did you not see what Cuck in Chief tweeted?
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