Hundreds help remove anti-Semitic graffiti (guess what's to blame...) - Page 8

**Donger** · 03-09-2004, 08:57 AM

DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- About 300 people of different faiths turned out to clean up a synagogue vandalized with swastikas and Nazi symbols on the eve of the Jewish holiday Purim.

So many people showed up Sunday at BMH-BJ Congregation, where vandalism had been discovered the day before, that people had to stand in line for a turn with a brush and a can of paint thinner.

"This is a place for everyone," said Doug Mix, who is not a member of the congregation. "That is why everyone is here. There are Christians, Jews, Muslims and people who are not religious. We all came out here because America is still America, and we don't tolerate this."

A custodian for the synagogue discovered about 10 markings when he arrived Saturday morning. Purim was celebrated Saturday night and Sunday. Police had not made any arrests by Monday.

Holocaust survivor Fanny Starr saw the graffiti Saturday morning.

"I was just shaking and broke down," she said. "All the wounds, the old wounds starting open again."

Rabbi Daniel Cohen said the vandalism may have been sparked by Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ," which just finished its second weekend as the No. 1 movie in the country. The movie, which some believe wrongly blames Jews for the death of Christ, has been criticized as anti-Semitic.

Elise Zakroff said she was sure the film inspired the graffiti.

"What Mel Gibson did is terrible," Zakroff said. "It is happening all over. We are tired of anti-Semitism. All we want is peace."

Shortly after the movie opened, a Denver pastor outraged Jews and Christians with a sign outside his Lovingway United Pentecostal Church that read "Jews Killed The Lord Jesus."

He said the sign was inspired by Gibson's film and later put a sign of apology.

In 2002, anti-Semitic incidents rose 8 percent nationwide over the previous year, according to the Anti-Defamation League. Colorado had 35 anti-Semitic incidents.

KCWolfman · 03-09-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hel'n

I reluctantly agree in this case, KCW.

You were wrong to move the thread. It showed a pettiness on your part. That's really sad...

Actually,I thought it was petty to leave on the main board. If you can find a moderator who disagrees with me, more power to you.

I did the right thing.

**BigRedChief** · 03-09-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Doom & Gloom Homer

I agree with Russ, I was attempting to move it when he did. When an argument is dominating a thread and the argument is between two personalities we as moderators move the thread here. It is unusal that the argument is between two moderators but that action should still apply.

okay

. I'm relatively new in these parts. As long as it's standard procedure on the board thats okay by me. I guess I usually see people going at it more on this board than others. I've saw a lot worse than this stay up so I assumed it was moderator error or whim. Sorry for lableing someone power hungry when that was not the case.

patteeu · 03-09-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hel'n

Actually, no I didn't say you did. Nor did I say DenverChief did. But it would be denial to say allusions to such were not made by others in this thread...

I would even venture to say there are those here who might believe the Holocaust never happened...

I've read this entire thread and I don't see any of these allusions. Maybe I missed something. What posts are you talking about?

KCWolfman · 03-09-2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I've read this entire thread and I don't see any of these allusions. Maybe I missed something. What posts are you talking about?

I have a feeling more than a couple of moderators are going to agree that this thread should have been moved after all the incorrect assumptions have been completed by several posters here.

patteeu · 03-09-2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

okay

. I'm relatively new in these parts. As long as it's standard procedure on the board thats okay by me. I guess I usually see people going at it more on this board than others. I've saw a lot worse than this stay up so I assumed it was moderator error or whim. Sorry for lableing someone power hungry when thata was not the case.

As someone who usually thinks the moderators are abusing their powers, I have to say that this seems to fall into the category of standard procedure here. I think other pissing matches slip through without being sent to the Romper Room because they aren't immediately within the focus of a mod like this thread obviously was.

patteeu · 03-09-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

I have a feeling more than a couple of moderators are going to agree that this thread should have been moved after all the incorrect assumptions have been completed by several posters here.

I agree. For once, I'm not arguing the case for moderator abuse. My question for Hel'n about allusions was on a different topic.

03-14-2004, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

As someone who usually thinks the moderators are abusing their powers,

I hope you think I'm one of those abusing his power, because I freely admit it. But, I don't abuse my power because of some twisted power trip. I abuse it for my own sick amusement. I don't know if that's better or worse, I just wanted to take a moment to clarify for those who may be keeping score at home.

Thanks for your time, we'll now return you to the regularly scheduled program.

patteeu · 03-14-2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I hope you think I'm one of those abusing his power, because I freely admit it. But, I don't abuse my power because of some twisted power trip. I abuse it for my own sick amusement. I don't know if that's better or worse, I just wanted to take a moment to clarify for those who may be keeping score at home.

Thanks for your time, we'll now return you to the regularly scheduled program.

Actually, that was just a comment on my general opinion that just about any moderation of a discussion board is too much. Try not to take it personally.

In the past I've been specifically critical of Logical but here I'm defending him (and KCWolfman) against a charge of abuse.

03-09-2004, 08:57 AM
Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $10439900 VARSITY	Hundreds help remove anti-Semitic graffiti (guess what's to blame...) DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- About 300 people of different faiths turned out to clean up a synagogue vandalized with swastikas and Nazi symbols on the eve of the Jewish holiday Purim. So many people showed up Sunday at BMH-BJ Congregation, where vandalism had been discovered the day before, that people had to stand in line for a turn with a brush and a can of paint thinner. "This is a place for everyone," said Doug Mix, who is not a member of the congregation. "That is why everyone is here. There are Christians, Jews, Muslims and people who are not religious. We all came out here because America is still America, and we don't tolerate this." A custodian for the synagogue discovered about 10 markings when he arrived Saturday morning. Purim was celebrated Saturday night and Sunday. Police had not made any arrests by Monday. Holocaust survivor Fanny Starr saw the graffiti Saturday morning. "I was just shaking and broke down," she said. "All the wounds, the old wounds starting open again." Rabbi Daniel Cohen said the vandalism may have been sparked by Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ," which just finished its second weekend as the No. 1 movie in the country. The movie, which some believe wrongly blames Jews for the death of Christ, has been criticized as anti-Semitic. Elise Zakroff said she was sure the film inspired the graffiti. "What Mel Gibson did is terrible," Zakroff said. "It is happening all over. We are tired of anti-Semitism. All we want is peace." Shortly after the movie opened, a Denver pastor outraged Jews and Christians with a sign outside his Lovingway United Pentecostal Church that read "Jews Killed The Lord Jesus." He said the sign was inspired by Gibson's film and later put a sign of apology. In 2002, anti-Semitic incidents rose 8 percent nationwide over the previous year, according to the Anti-Defamation League. Colorado had 35 anti-Semitic incidents.
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