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They come here and the government has some understanding and talks with them, has ships and bodies, and knows something about what they are. 25 16.23%
They come here, and the government investigates sightings and keeps secrets and has evidence but they don't know much. 31 20.13%
They exist and they come here but no one (including government) has any solid physical evidence or shocking secrets. 11 7.14%
They exist and are intelligent and could come here but they don't. 18 11.69%
Intelligent life exists in some form but can't come here because of distance/technology challenges. 54 35.06%
Something exists out there somewhere but it isn't intelligent. 8 5.19%
There are no life forms anywhere else. 7 4.55%
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:46 PM  
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What is your stance on aliens?
I am curious to see where everyone stands on this. Asking about a stance on UFOs could be a different topic with different options so feel to give your thoughts on that as well.
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:57 PM   #136
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SO WHAT THE **** WAS IT?
You know I think I see something odd all the time. But everytime I look closer I find I was wrong in my momentary attempt to "see" something that wasn't there. Especially when I was 8. Especially when driving. I see odd reflections I think for a moment I see a deer but its a beer can.

Heres some really weird looking things in clouds. At 8 my imagination would have run wild especially if moving.


http://www.wired.com/2009/09/clouds/


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Old 05-31-2015, 08:57 PM   #137
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:58 PM   #138
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You know I think I see something odd all the time. But everytime I look closer I find I was wrong in my momentary attempt to "see" something that wasn't there. Especially when I was 8. Especially when driving. I see odd reflections I think for a moment I see a deer but its a beer can.

Heres some really weird looking things in clouds. At 8 my imagination would have run wild especially if moving.


http://www.wired.com/2009/09/clouds/
You are wrong too. You will see. YOU ALL WILL SEE!
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Old 05-31-2015, 09:49 PM   #139
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:36 PM   #140
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:43 PM   #141
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God created man and woman within the first week about 6,000 years ago. Nowhere in Heavenly Father's 6th day of creation (creatures of the land to rule over the fish of the sea) does he mention making some ET looking mother ****er on Mars.
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:58 PM   #142
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:26 AM   #143
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SO WHAT THE **** WAS IT?
nobody knows

hence the UFO
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:28 AM   #144
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“There’s a fascinating frailty of the human mind that psychologists know all about, called “argument from ignorance.” This is how it goes. Remember what the “U” stands for in “UFO”? You see lights flashing in the sky. You’ve never seen anything like this before and don’t understand what it is. You say, “It’s a UFO!”

The “U” stands for “unidentified.”

But then you say, “I don’t know what it is; it must be aliens from outer space, visiting from another planet.” The issue here is that if you don’t know what something is, your interpretation of it should stop immediately. You don’t then say it must be X or Y or Z. That’s argument from ignorance. It’s common. I’m not blaming anybody; it may relate to our burning need to manufacture answers because we feel uncomfortable about being steeped in ignorance.”


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I always wondered that too.

What was that weird thing I saw? I don't know, therefore aliens.
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Looking at the scale of the universe. It is almost certain there is alien life of some kind, past, present, or future, including intelligent life. Right now, I don't think we have any evidence whatsoever that they can visit us, but I think aliens being able to visit is is much more plausible than an invisible jewish zombie being universally omnipotent.


What he said.
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I always wondered that too.

What was that weird thing I saw? I don't know, therefore aliens.
Sometimes you see things that are unexplainable by physics - if what you see can't be explained by the physics of this world then it must be from another world - therefore alien.
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Too bad the tv scientists word doesnt trump the director of the CIA, or Chairman of the JCOS.

Because they certainly didnt have any scientists informing their opinions...
No individual's word trumps anyone else's. That's the entire point to the Argument from Authority fallacy.
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Old 06-01-2015, 09:39 AM   #148
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Most religions don't specifically address whether life exists anywhere besides earth.

Only the arrogant and/or deluded would believe that


non-religious:

What are the odds that earth is the only place the right conditions for life exist and occurred? Billions of planets like earth, trillions of stars and planets that could sustain non-humanoid life.

People of Religion:

why would a supreme being create a universe so vast that our human minds can't even comprehend it, then put a single speck of life on earth? what is the point of billions x trillions of empty space? Many religious predict the 2nd coming and/or judgement day will occur long before we will be able to even search our own small galaxy. God was bored?


makes no sense to believe we are the only 'life' in the universe

Only people who don't want to believe it could reach that conclusion.
Actually most religions DO talk about beings not of earth visiting and interacting with earth and/or humans, they just call them God(s) instead of Aliens.
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So why do aliens have to be humanoid life?

What if there's different life forms, including creatures or other beings with different bodies that survive under other environmental conditions—the kind we could not survive under?
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So why do aliens have to be humanoid life?

What if there's different life forms, including creatures or other beings with different bodies that survive under other environmental conditions—the kind we could not survive under?
NO

aliens can ONLY be humanoid and aliens can ONLY survive with water

duh

don't you know alien rules?
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