Movies and TV Terminator Genisys - Page 3

**Gonzo** · 01-17-2015, 11:31 AM

I dunno... It's looking kinda 'meh' maybe?
They continue to **** with the timeline which is confusing. So what I see in this trailer is this is the second time they send the same dude back to keep Sarah Connor alive? Wait, wut?
Apparently terminators age as well? Weird but whatever.
Here's the trailer. I didn't see it posted anywhere but the search function is fubar.

http://youtu.be/62E4FJTwSuc

seaofred · 04-13-2015, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

I wonder how they explain that the terminator is just old as ****.

Still gonna watch it~

The terminator is covered with actual tissue, right? So, it's easy to assume it would age like all tissue.

Sure-Oz · 04-13-2015, 05:06 PM

Looks cool...def hard to top T2

Imon Yourside · 04-13-2015, 05:14 PM

1st or 2nd day see for me, and it's rare that I will see something at all much less that quick. My son will love this.

**Rausch** · 04-13-2015, 05:26 PM

Not sure WTF is going on now.

How is there a John Connor before Reece?

And Connor as the bad guy?....

Deberg_1990 · 04-13-2015, 05:27 PM

This just looks horrible

I'm sure it will make a mint

Imon Yourside · 04-13-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Not sure WTF is going on now.

How is there a John Connor before Reece?

And Connor as the bad guy?....

Don't care, starved for an old time action movie. Even if it sucks, Which it may mightily I want see it.

bowener · 04-13-2015, 06:14 PM

Looks like future machines figured out nanotech, which is pretty sweet. For those confused as to why Arnie is old, human tissues cells cover the terminators, which means they age just like human tissues cells normally would.

As for the jumbled timeline, I think it is somewhat clear that several trips have been taken at different points in time. I am positive the old Arnold goes back to 1984 and kills the young Arnold before it all gets started (or at least that is my hunch from the 3 second fight scene between them). If John has been infected with nano machines, then they have to go back in his timeline prior to that moment, they also have to make sure Reese and Sarah still ****... think Back to the Future with homicide thrown in. The paradox being, if you stop the machines, then Sarah and Reese never meet, and John is never born to stop the machines. I am quite curious how they are going to solve that. Clearly the methods taken in T2 did not work to stop the future threat.

This could be a great movie if they can pull off multiple time lines coherently.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-13-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Not sure WTF is going on now.

How is there a John Connor before Reece?

And Connor as the bad guy?....

Now I understand why Jason took the role after initially refusing to even read the script. This trailer looks amazing, IMO, and I expect to be fully awesome.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-13-2015, 06:47 PM

It's all explainable if you subscribe to the theory of time travel that each trip back creates a new alternate timeline (which is different from Back to the Future).

For example, the original Terminator had to be no sooner than the 3rd time John Connor was born.

In the original timeline, Sarah Connor meets someone from her present day, who sires John Connor, who becomes the leader of the human resistance. Once they smash the defense grid of Skynet, they discover that Skynet had sent a Terminator back. Thus, John elects to send Kyle Reese back, unaware that Kyle would alter the past. Doing this creates an alternate timeline.

Kyle saves Sarah, they conceive John, and he dies. This is the second iteration of the 1984 timeline. Now, Sarah is aware of who her son will be, so she begins recording messages to him and she tells John about Kyle, ensuring that he will send Kyle back. This is also why John gives Kyle Sarah's picture taken outside of the gas station in Mexico before the storm comes in at the end of the first film. That is the third iteration of the timeline, and as far as we know, every one thereafter.

Deberg_1990 · 04-13-2015, 06:54 PM

How does the TV series and 3rd movie factor into all of this?

So confusing...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-13-2015, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

How does the TV series and 3rd movie factor into all of this?

So confusing...

If they aren't canon they don't.

Similar to how Star Wars animated series don't apply to the film universe, or fan fiction to many other types of text.

**Rausch** · 04-13-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's all explainable if you subscribe to the theory of time travel that each trip back creates a new alternate timeline (which is different from Back to the Future).

For example, the original Terminator had to be no sooner than the 3rd time John Connor was born.

If you subscribe to a multiverse/alternate timeline theory it could have happened the first time.

In timeline A John is born and sends Reece (sp?) back to the past...in timeline B.

In timeline A Reece wasn't John's father but now is in B.

Also you could think of time not as a line but a loop. Think of time travel bending a "time line" like a hot wheels race car track...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-13-2015, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you subscribe to a multiverse/alternate timeline theory it could have happened the first time.

In timeline A John is born and sends Reece (sp?) back to the past...in timeline B.

In timeline A Reece wasn't John's father but now is in B.

Also you could think of time not as a line but a loop. Think of time travel bending a "time line" like a hot wheels race car track...

That's not the first time, it's the second. And Reese wouldn't have had that picture otherwise, because Sarah had no reason to drive around Mexico for fear of being attacked.

You're not doing the predestination paradox right, either.

Deberg_1990 · 04-13-2015, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If they aren't canon they don't.

Similar to how Star Wars animated series don't apply to the film universe, or fan fiction to many other types of text.

I dont think anyone has ever defined "canon" in the Terminator universe? There is no "One Chief" running these since Cameron left.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-13-2015, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I dont think anyone has ever defined "canon" in the Terminator universe? There is no "One Chief" running these since Cameron left.

The TV show is not canonical.

To some people, canon ends after T2. In T4, T3 was also canonical. We'll see which one the filmmakers subscribe to.

01-17-2015, 11:31 AM
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04-13-2015, 05:14 PM	#33
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04-13-2015, 06:14 PM	#37
bowener BAMF! Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $9549897	Looks like future machines figured out nanotech, which is pretty sweet. For those confused as to why Arnie is old, human tissues cells cover the terminators, which means they age just like human tissues cells normally would. As for the jumbled timeline, I think it is somewhat clear that several trips have been taken at different points in time. I am positive the old Arnold goes back to 1984 and kills the young Arnold before it all gets started (or at least that is my hunch from the 3 second fight scene between them). If John has been infected with nano machines, then they have to go back in his timeline prior to that moment, they also have to make sure Reese and Sarah still ***... think Back to the Future with homicide thrown in. The paradox being, if you stop the machines, then Sarah and Reese never meet, and John is never born to stop the machines. I am quite curious how they are going to solve that. Clearly the methods taken in T2 did not work to stop the future threat. This could be a great movie if they can pull off multiple time lines coherently. __________________ Main Entry: bowe·ner Pronunciation: \ˈbō-nər\ Function: noun* Date: circa 2007
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04-13-2015, 06:47 PM	#39
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	It's all explainable if you subscribe to the theory of time travel that each trip back creates a new alternate timeline (which is different from Back to the Future). For example, the original Terminator had to be no sooner than the 3rd time John Connor was born. In the original timeline, Sarah Connor meets someone from her present day, who sires John Connor, who becomes the leader of the human resistance. Once they smash the defense grid of Skynet, they discover that Skynet had sent a Terminator back. Thus, John elects to send Kyle Reese back, unaware that Kyle would alter the past. Doing this creates an alternate timeline. Kyle saves Sarah, they conceive John, and he dies. This is the second iteration of the 1984 timeline. Now, Sarah is aware of who her son will be, so she begins recording messages to him and she tells John about Kyle, ensuring that he will send Kyle back. This is also why John gives Kyle Sarah's picture taken outside of the gas station in Mexico before the storm comes in at the end of the first film. That is the third iteration of the timeline, and as far as we know, every one thereafter.
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04-13-2015, 06:54 PM	#40
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