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Old 02-06-2013, 02:16 PM  
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Calif. Law Would Force Gun Owners to Buy Insurance

Democratic lawmakers proposed legislation Tuesday that would require California gun owners to buy liability insurance to cover damages or injuries caused by their weapons.

Similar bills have been introduced in other states after the Newtown, Conn., school massacre. They include Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and New York.

"I was moved, like many others, being the father of two young children, by the Sandy Hook incident and looking for constructive ways to manage gun violence here in California as well as the rest of the country,'' said Assemblyman Philip Ting of San Francisco, who introduced AB231 along with Assemblyman Jimmy Gomez of Los Angeles. "There's basically a cost that is born by the taxpayers when accidents occur. ... I don't think that taxpayers should be footing those bills.''

Ting equated the idea to requiring vehicle owners to buy auto insurance. Gomez said it would encourage gun owners to take firearms safety classes and keep their guns locked up to get lower insurance rates.

No state has enacted the requirement despite repeated previous attempts, said Jon Griffin, a policy analyst with the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Bills have been offered unsuccessfully in Massachusetts and New York since at least 2003, when the conference began keeping track, he said. Similar bills were proposed in Illinois in 2009 and in Pennsylvania last year. Lawmakers are introducing the bills this year in even more states after the recent shootings.

Some proposals would require buyers to show proof of insurance before they could purchase a weapon. The proposal in California would apply to anyone owning a weapon, Ting said, though the bill's details are still being worked out.

Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, said most gun owners already act responsibly and can be sued for damages if they don't.

He said the proposal is part of an ongoing attempt to "price gun owners out of existence,'' particularly the law-abiding poor who live in crime-ridden areas and need protection the most. Criminals would ignore the law, he said.

Moreover, he questioned whether it is constitutional to require someone to buy insurance to exercise a constitutional right.

"If they don't address it in committee, I'll guarantee they'll have to address it in court,'' Paredes said.

Ting said he and Gomez plan to work with gun owners and opponents to craft a constitutional bill. It will not require insurance companies to offer gun insurance, but will encourage them to enter the market.

He noted that the National Rifle Association itself already offers its members the chance to buy liability insurance, despite its opposition to requiring gun owners to buy such policies.

Ting also introduced AB232, which would give a state income-tax credit of up to $1,000 to anyone who turns in a firearm to a local gun buyback program. The amount of the credit would be determined based on the value of the weapon.


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Old 02-06-2013, 07:30 PM   #31
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:03 PM   #32
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I can see what Ting and Gomez's intentions were, but I don't see this standing up to judicial scrutiny. Like or not, we have the Second Amendment, and to put a qualifier of purchase on it would be akin to poll tax - actually, even worse, since the right to vote isn't spelled out directly in the Bill of Rights, where the right to bear arms is.

This one I give to the pro-gun crowd.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:27 PM   #33
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You got something against witches?
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:36 PM   #34
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Crap, I can't go on a killing spree today, my insurance has lapsed.
never thought of it that way
no civil suits to worry about


yeah , not seeing this work out well
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:43 PM   #35
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People should be should be forced to buy insurance for the right to free speech as well. That would prevent a lot of the stupid things that are said from being said. People would be forced to actually think first and be responsible with their words. But if that were the case, these guys probably wouldn't be proposing this law.
as shown roght here you can freely speak all the stupids shit you want to..
but you have to suffer the repercussions...
as in being ridiculed in public
the first amendmanyt says you have a right to say what ever stuipid shit you want

it does not allow you to not be punished for it, by everybody but the government


and isn't the second about a well regulated militia?

any of you guys in a militia, that is regulated?


there, I went over the line


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Old 02-06-2013, 08:52 PM   #36
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