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Old 04-27-2015, 11:46 AM  
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Wet Shaving

Do we have any afficionados of traditional wet shaving here on the planet? I have taken up this art recently.

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Spend Less on a Close Shave
April 29, 2010

The strategy

Buy a safety razor — yes, the kind Grandpa used. While the razor costs about five times more than the typical multiblade cartridge kind, its blades will run about $30 a year, vs. $50 and up for cartridge refills. Plus, a safety razor lasts a lifetime and looks a heck of a lot better on your bathroom shelf than a plastic one. Will you get a good shave? Absolutely — and you’ll be less likely to develop ingrown hairs, says grooming expert Nick Burns, co-author of The Bearded Gentleman.

What to look for

A razor that weighs 2½ ounces or more, such as the classic Merkur (pictured) or the Edwin Jagger 89L ($35). Heavier models are less likely to nick because you won’t be tempted to press into your skin to get a close shave. Go for a handle that’s at least three inches long — it’ll be easier to grip.

Shave smarter

Not all safety blades are the same. Feather blades, for example, are sharper than Derbys. So try a few options to find the best fit, says Mark Herro, who writes the shaving blog Sharpologist.
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Old 04-28-2015, 09:55 AM   #31
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As for safety razors there is a reason men started bolting from in the 60's when Gillette introduced SS blade and Bic released the first true disposable. Then the 70,s and Gillette released the the twin blades and safety razor all but dissipated from mens shave kits. My dad packed his away but luckly went up in attic where me and my brother picked through after he died. Keep as keepsake rarely use for good reason IMO.
If you're insinuating that DEs fell out of vogue because they're dangerous, you can't be serious. The reason DEs fell out in the 70s is because companies like Gillette poured tons of money into ad campaigns about how much faster and safer multi-blade cartridges are, but it's a load of horse shit. The real reason is because they can jack up the prices on cartridges and butt rape customers while reaping massive profits. Which they've done for the past forty plus years.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:09 AM   #32
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If you're insinuating that DEs fell out of vogue because they're dangerous, you can't be serious. The reason DEs fell out in the 70s is because companies like Gillette poured tons of money into ad campaigns about how much faster and safer multi-blade cartridges are, but it's a load of horse shit. The real reason is because they can jack up the prices on cartridges and butt rape customers while reaping massive profits. Which they've done for the past forty plus years.
Exactly! By constantly changing the handle/cartridge combinations they can "force" men to constantly buy new handles and blades. DE razors will last for a LONG time if properly cared for (I own a 1954 Superspeed that is still in very good condition). Gillette and other companies can't make mega-profits on DE blades, so they had to come up with a new system so they could make more money.

DEs don't compare at all to straight razors in terms of cost per use. The initial setup for straight razor shaving is much higher: about $120 for a brand-new, professionally honed blade; $40 for a strop; $40 for a hone to maintain the edge yourself (or send it out every year or so); plus mug, brush, soap/cream. The savings come over the very long haul though because a properly maintained straight razor will outlive you. Case in point: I have a straight razor that belonged to my grandfather (who died in 1972) and he got the razor in the 1940's. When I got it, it took 10 passes on my barber's hone to get it back into shaving shape. I also got a straight razor that was just about as old that belonged to one of my great-uncles and with it took just a little more effort to put an edge back on the blade, and now it's as good a shaver as the two Dovo straights I bought new.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:13 AM   #33
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Just got into this about 2 - 3 months ago. im loving it. my beard grows mad fast and my skin is crazy sensitive. As long as i keep shaving each day (or two max) i get no skin issues at all. I actually look forward to a shave now. Its relaxing and I have found a new appreciation for good aftershave. one of these days i might try a straight razor, but for now the safety razor (and the COST SAVINGS) is awesome!
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:16 AM   #34
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If you want evidence that Gillette has been making money hand over fist based on its exorbitant cartridge business model, look no further than the Pats' stadium.

A ****ing shaving company has enough money to name-sponsor an NFL stadium.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:21 AM   #35
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Exactly! By constantly changing the handle/cartridge combinations they can "force" men to constantly buy new handles and blades. DE razors will last for a LONG time if properly cared for (I own a 1954 Superspeed that is still in very good condition).
Those fusion cartridges are $3-4 each or more at retail. I laid out $40 for a top of the line Merkur that is stainless and should last a lifetime.

There are other initial costs, but it would all pay for itself in about a year and you'd be getting a higher quality shave than with the plastic gillette stuff.

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I have a straight razor that belonged to my grandfather (who died in 1972) and he got the razor in the 1940's. When I got it, it took 10 passes on my barber's hone to get it back into shaving shape.
That's really awesome. How hard was it to learn?
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:23 AM   #36
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I've been using a EJ DE89 with feather blades for a while now. (Since the last thread about this got me to purchase one.) Couldn't be happier.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:24 AM   #37
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If you're insinuating that DEs fell out of vogue because they're dangerous, you can't be serious. The reason DEs fell out in the 70s is because companies like Gillette poured tons of money into ad campaigns about how much faster and safer multi-blade cartridges are, but it's a load of horse shit. The real reason is because they can jack up the prices on cartridges and butt rape customers while reaping massive profits. Which they've done for the past forty plus years.
Never said anything about danger. My dad hardly watched TV, read the newspaper and Popular Mechanics. He most likely tried like most men out of curiosity and decided this is convenient easy gives a quality shave. The styptic pen also disappeared from the med cabinet. Men of that generation were not easily swayed by advertizing you had to prove you had a product that worked and was cost effective.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:28 AM   #38
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I've been using a EJ DE89 with feather blades for a while now. (Since the last thread about this got me to purchase one.) Couldn't be happier.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:29 AM   #39
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If you want evidence that Gillette has been making money hand over fist based on its exorbitant cartridge business model, look no further than the Pats' stadium.

A ****ing shaving company has enough money to name-sponsor an NFL stadium.
Yeah an so? Men shave put out a good product its going to sell and Gillette is going to make money. Its private enterprise and you choose to go a different direction the majority goes the other direction. I was only stating my opinion your pretty defensive about it.
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That's really awesome. How hard was it to learn?
This...

On a side note, my kids love to shave after me. I just take out the blade and hand them the brush and they have a blast. I could not do that with a Mach 4 or 5. Also, given that those disposable heads are so damn costly...I was more inclined to use them longer then necessary and thus end up with more razor burn and cuts.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:34 AM   #41
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Yeah an so? Men shave put out a good product its going to sell and Gillette is going to make money. Its private enterprise and you choose to go a different direction the majority goes the other direction. I was only stating my opinion your pretty defensive about it.
I'm not defensive, I just seize any opportunity to inform people that cartridge razors suck and are a waste of money after years of wasting money on them myself.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:52 AM   #42
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I rarely use Gillette but I favor the sensor that I got in the mail long ago when a man never had to buy a razor handle. I get double blades from Dollar Store or Dollar tree and good to go. But I am only clean shaven in the summer so its pretty cheap when its just for cleanup.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:13 PM   #43
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Cartridge razors are a lot more affordable if you buy the right ones and sharpen them with a piece of denim.

Before I switched to my electric Braun I was using the Dorco Pace 6 plus. MUCH cheaper than Gillette, just as good, and one cartridge would last me a month shaving every other day and sharpening once a week.
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:42 AM   #44
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Those fusion cartridges are $3-4 each or more at retail. I laid out $40 for a top of the line Merkur that is stainless and should last a lifetime.

There are other initial costs, but it would all pay for itself in about a year and you'd be getting a higher quality shave than with the plastic gillette stuff.



That's really awesome. How hard was it to learn?
Exactly! I haven't spent money on DE blades in about 4 years (I got 300 blades...and a blade lasts me about a week).

Straight razor shaving wasn't too hard to learn, after using a DE for a long time. You have to be really careful with blade angle and pressure (you want no pressure, or you will cut yourself, and I mean cut, not nick), but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty easy. I recommend starting slow and only shaving part of your face, and slowly expanding how much you shave. The guys at the The Straight Razor Place forum were extremely helpful.
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I have a weird, hybrid system. I use an electric razor Tue-Friday mornings. Basically lay in bed and shave. It does a perfectly reasonable job. I typically skip shaving on Sat/Sun, and then on Monday I shave with a Sensor (the 2 blade one). None of that ridiculous five razor crap for me -- seriously why does anyone spend the money on that?? The 2 blades do a good job, and I've learned that using a blade at least once a week reduces ingrowns.

Works very well, and costs very little since I use a disposable blade once a week.
You don't mean that literally do you? It makes me want to go change my sheets just thinking about it.....
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