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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed
According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

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Old 01-20-2015, 11:33 PM   #61
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But I have no respect whatsoever for a team that would do that and surprised some people are okay with the Pats doing this.
I'm not Ok with them tampering balls AFTER a check.

I am perfectly OK with them preparing 36 balls (as per the NFL rules I read for outdoor games) and letting the refs inspect them...and if they clear the balls, game on...if not, adjust inflation etc...


It all depends on WHEN the tampering was done IMO.


If they prepared balls like EVERY team does, and the refs OK'd the balls...then its on the refs...not the PATS i.m.o.

If they tampered with them after the check.....thats different story....
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:34 PM   #62
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I swear there is a mistake in this reporting....because they shouldve prepared 36 balls and set aside 12 for just kicking

according to the rule blurb earlier in thread...

nothing makes sense
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:35 PM   #63
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I swear there is a mistake in this reporting....because they shouldve prepared 36 balls and set aside 12 for just kicking

according to the rule blurb earlier in thread...

nothing makes sense
it really doesn't make sense.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:36 PM   #64
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:37 PM   #65
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I can't believe people don't think this is a big deal..

Anyway, for anyone that isn't a complete idiot, what should the punishment be? After Spygate it's gotta be pretty steep, yes?
Yeah...I dont agree that it should be a slap on the wrist. It doesnt matter if it was just a slight advantage. Cheating is cheating.

Since we cant follow Clay's wonderful suggestion and ban them to the CFL for three years, I say fine the hell out of them and take away some major top end draft picks. They have a history, ya know.

Also, officially put the asterisk to their SB wins.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:37 PM   #66
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you think deflating balls is the same extremity as driving influenced, but not getting caught?

I would understand if the pats were somehow spiking the other teams drinks or giving themselves ped in their drink that it would compare in terms of "extremes" but deflated balls? c'mon son.
I think the point is... it's one thing to get pulled over and you accidentally had a tail light out. It's another to get pulled over knowing you did something wrong.

It doesn't sound like the Pats can play the innocent card here. It seems like they knew they were breaking the rules and did it anyway. And this would be a much smaller deal if they weren't repeat offenders.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:38 PM   #67
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I'm not Ok with them tampering balls AFTER a check.

I am perfectly OK with them preparing 36 balls (as per the NFL rules I read for outdoor games) and letting the refs inspect them...and if they clear the balls, game on...if not, adjust inflation etc...


It all depends on WHEN the tampering was done IMO.


If they prepared balls like EVERY team does, and the refs OK'd the balls...then its on the refs...not the PATS i.m.o.

If they tampered with them after the check.....thats different story....
Yep on all dat
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:39 PM   #68
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Yeah...I dont agree that it should be a slap on the wrist. It doesnt matter if it was just a slight advantage. Cheating is cheating.

Since we cant follow Clay's wonderful suggestion and ban them to the CFL for three years, I say fine the hell out of them and take away some major top end draft picks. They have a history, ya know.

Also, officially put the asterisk to their SB wins.
In Roger Goodell's wonderful world of "eeny meeny miney penalize" that will never happen. If I'm the Saints, I demand that any coaches with knowledge of this be suspended for several games next season.
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wait they discovered this at half-time

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The game officials discovered at halftime that footballs used in the first half were under-inflated, testing each ball twice with different gauges, according to Ben Volin of The Boston Globe.
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and footballs must remain under supervision of the referee until they are delivered to the ball attendant shortly before the start of the game.
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I think the point is... it's one thing to get pulled over and you accidentally had a tail light out. It's another to get pulled over knowing you did something wrong.

It doesn't sound like the Pats can play the innocent card here. It seems like they knew they were breaking the rules and did it anyway. And this would be a much smaller deal if they weren't repeat offenders.
yeah i understand.. but i've watched seahags purposely go for niner oline/dline guys knees.. and nothing is done about it.. not a big deal but pats are the worst cheaters haha always gettin caught
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Here is another angle...

sudden cold can cause deflation of 20% PSI (warm inside air, inflated...then taken outside)

13-14 PSI

minus 20% (2.6-2.8)

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11ish PSI
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