Homeland on Showtime

[BigRedChief]

Looks promising. Lots of good actors and a premise with lots of potential.

[jiveturkey]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So. Is Brody on the level with the CIA, or is he masterfully playing both sides here? We really don't know what was said between him and Nazir in those hours they were together....

And what's up with Quinn? Some high level spook hitman being put in an authorative position over an extremely high level op?


Right now, this and Walking Dead are the two best shows on the tube for my buck.

The Quinn situation is getting really interesting really quickly.

The scenes from next week lead me to believe that Brody is on the level with the CIA. It looks like he's burned Nazir.

[Sorter]

Quinn is awesome.

[Pants]

I thought they made it pretty clear what Quinn's deal is. Like Estes said, he's there to kill terrorists (read: kill Bordy). The CIA's plan is clearly to off Brody after he's done helping them with Nazir.

[Dante84]

Wow, just caught up tonight. Love the show. Not sure where things will go, because the writers are great at throwing twists in there to **** with your head. Interesting quote from the show, when Brody was talking to his wife on the Satelite phone - "Don't worry, it will all go back to how it was soon." And it almost did, in that Brody almost died and the family goes on living with Mike in the picture.

Still unanswered - Why did Saul fail the initial polygraph in season one? The one he walked out of. And why did he pray when the guy who was interrogated was killed with the razor? We can trust him.... right? Or is he - or anyone else - a mole?

If I were king shit of **** mountain, and had a say in how the show went, I think good direction would be to involve the VP's son.

There are a lot of angles:
- Dana likes/liked him, creating drama on the personal/family front
- Brody knows Dana likes him, and also hates VP for taking Isa, which was essentially Brody's son. Payback?
- Nazir obviously wants to cause a ruckus, and it would be sweet revenge
- The viewer has angst towards the son for killing the pedestrian, and causing Dana grief


Anyways, that was just a smattering of my thoughts.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Wow, just caught up tonight. Love the show. Not sure where things will go, because the writers are great at throwing twists in there to **** with your head. Interesting quote from the show, when Brody was talking to his wife on the Satelite phone - "Don't worry, it will all go back to how it was soon." And it almost did, in that Brody almost died and the family goes on living with Mike in the picture.

Still unanswered - Why did Saul fail the initial polygraph in season one? The one he walked out of. And why did he pray when the guy who was interrogated was killed with the razor? We can trust him.... right? Or is he - or anyone else - a mole?

If I were king shit of **** mountain, and had a say in how the show went, I think good direction would be to involve the VP's son.

There are a lot of angles:
- Dana likes/liked him, creating drama on the personal/family front
- Brody knows Dana likes him, and also hates VP for taking Isa, which was essentially Brody's son. Payback?
- Nazir obviously wants to cause a ruckus, and it would be sweet revenge
- The viewer has angst towards the son for killing the pedestrian, and causing Dana grief


Anyways, that was just a smattering of my thoughts.

The unresolved mole issue is certainly an interesting one, although I don't think it's ever come up in S2, has it? If Saul is a mole for anyone, it would probably be Mossad. I can't imagine an Arab terrorist ever accepting help from a Jew nor a Jew helping an Arab terrorist. In either case, I think they have shown enough of Saul in private (i.e. there was no one for him to pretend around) for any doubts to be there. Maybe I'm just being blinded by my bias here because I like Saul Berenson so much. Who knows?

I thought for sure Brody was going to get killed by Nazir's people during the last episode simply because I feel like that Carrie-Brody story arc is just too dirty at this point. The writers probably don't want to deal with that shit. They've made it pretty clear that his family doesn't want anything to do with him at this point (Jessica sleeping with Mike, Dana not wanting to talk to him on the phone and reminiscing about her life prior to Brody's return). The writers also told us through Saul that Brody makes Carrie weak. I think we're being prepped for the death of Nicholas Brody. If Nazir doesn't get him, Quinn will. If anything, it's just a good, clean way to close the Brody chapter and move on to a different conflict in S3.

[Dante84]

The other mole reference I forgot to mention is the warning about the car chasing the "professor" to the staged house. What makes the Saul element even more interesting is that he reacted sooo strongly when the girl killed herself at the super max prison. Maybe they were closer than just a simple car ride from Mexico to Virginia?

Love me some Saul, but that is interesting. I also wonder if what's-his-ass hispanic CIA agent, who got shot at the tailor shop, has a deeper element? Or perhaps the creepy mute spy brother?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Pants

I thought they made it pretty clear what Quinn's deal is. Like Estes said, he's there to kill terrorists (read: kill Bordy). The CIA's plan is clearly to off Brody after he's done helping them with Nazir.

Yeah, but to have him in such a place of influence? IF that's all he was truly there for, they could just have him wait in the shadows with a sniper rifle. Something hasn't been revealed yet.....

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Dante84

The other mole reference I forgot to mention is the warning about the car chasing the "professor" to the staged house. What makes the Saul element even more interesting is that he reacted sooo strongly when the girl killed herself at the super max prison. Maybe they were closer than just a simple car ride from Mexico to Virginia?

Love me some Saul, but that is interesting. I also wonder if what's-his-ass hispanic CIA agent, who got shot at the tailor shop, has a deeper element? Or perhaps the creepy mute spy brother?

So you're suggesting that Saul actually willingly assisted the suicide? Interesting....

[Sorter]

I think Galvez is your best bet for a mole if one exists.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So you're suggesting that Saul actually willingly assisted the suicide? Interesting....

I've wondered about Saul all along. Remember when Brody passed the polygraph and said that he didn't give the guy the razor blade, back in season one? Didn't Saul fail it, ostensibly because of his problems with his wife?

It's a subtle thing, and they've never been overt with him (never any mustache-twirling onscreen...) but it's been set up if that's the direction they want to go.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I've wondered about Saul all along. Remember when Brody passed the polygraph and said that he didn't give the guy the razor blade, back in season one? Didn't Saul fail it, ostensibly because of his problems with his wife?

It's a subtle thing, and they've never been overt with him (never any mustache-twirling onscreen...) but it's been set up if that's the direction they want to go.

True. And he did have quite the emotional outburst when he realized what she possibly had done inside that room. Very unlike Saul to react that way. Putting on a show for the guard?

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Bowser

True. And he did have quite the emotional outburst when he realized what she possibly had done inside that room. Very unlike Saul to react that way. Putting on a show for the guard?

Eh, I think that Saul's just an emotional guy who felt bad for her.

If he is the mole or working for Mossad (his character is jewish and was reciting a Hebrew prayer IIRC when the terrorist in S1 killed himself) it would be crazy. I think it is probably more likely that he isn't the mole and is working with Mossad but I think he's clean.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Pants

The unresolved mole issue is certainly an interesting one, although I don't think it's ever come up in S2, has it? If Saul is a mole for anyone, it would probably be Mossad. I can't imagine an Arab terrorist ever accepting help from a Jew nor a Jew helping an Arab terrorist. In either case, I think they have shown enough of Saul in private (i.e. there was no one for him to pretend around) for any doubts to be there. Maybe I'm just being blinded by my bias here because I like Saul Berenson so much. Who knows?

I thought for sure Brody was going to get killed by Nazir's people during the last episode simply because I feel like that Carrie-Brody story arc is just too dirty at this point. The writers probably don't want to deal with that shit. They've made it pretty clear that his family doesn't want anything to do with him at this point (Jessica sleeping with Mike, Dana not wanting to talk to him on the phone and reminiscing about her life prior to Brody's return). The writers also told us through Saul that Brody makes Carrie weak. I think we're being prepped for the death of Nicholas Brody. If Nazir doesn't get him, Quinn will. If anything, it's just a good, clean way to close the Brody chapter and move on to a different conflict in S3.

Spoiler below

Spoiler!

Damian Lewis just signed a deal to be on the show through season 7

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Buck

Spoiler below

Spoiler!

Damian Lewis just signed a deal to be on the show through season 7

FUUUUUUUUUUUUU


I was really hoping they'd just end it next year.

This show is going to be as shitty as Dexter is if it makes it 5 seasons.

[Hootie]

how do you make 7 seasons with Brody already outed as a terrorist? Crazy. And now even Abu Nazir knows he was working against him...

I guess that's why they write and I watch.