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Old 09-20-2018, 11:17 AM  
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We’ve got to get Eric Murray off the field



Everybody pretty much did their job here in the back end except Murray. This defense looks so much worse because of him. The guy just doesn’t have a good read on coverage.

It sucks that we are pressed to play him bc we are forced too due to Sorenson and Berry being hurt.

FWIW Armani Watts played 16 defensive snaps in the Steelers game as opposed to 3 in LA. I think he’s coming up to speed.

Only a matter of time until Murray is on the bench and we look better.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:00 PM   #121
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I really liked his play last week. If he keeps that up, he's been a brilliant find by Veach.
Dude was getting it done against a variety of really good receivers including the best in the game.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:02 PM   #122
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My only problem with Fuller right now is that he isn't playing up to my expectations, or at least he didn't in the LAC game. One of his "things" was supposed to be open field tackling and he whiffed a couple of times REALLY bad but he was better against Pitt at least.


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I am higher on fuller than others are, I guess. I also feel like everyone talks about how good peters was like the tackling wasn’t a huge problem. It was a huge problem.

Additionally, Berry was supposed to be an improvement to the secondary. That’s the biggest problem right now back there, and then followed by a need for more sacks.

I personally don’t think this defense is as far off as it seems. If we can get a pass rusher, a safety, and a corner in the draft, we should also have cap space to sign a veteran DB. This can be fixed fast, given that Bailey comes off the books.

I would like to see them restructure Houston, given that he’s $21M to keep and $7.5 M to cut next year. Free up some space to give him legit help on the other side. Additionally, Ford’s entire cap number comes off the books. We have to extend Hill, and that will be a huge payday but worth it. Adding a vet pass rusher or CB on a three year deal can really lighten be load for the draft.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:02 PM   #123
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Ford has been one of best pass rushers this season. How are you replacing him in this scenario?
There is no way I re-sign Ford. Let him walk, take the comp pick, and draft a pass rusher in the first three picks.

With the cap space, I’d make a strong play for Anthony Barr. I hold out zero hope for Kpass or Speaks. Not saying they won’t come around, but I wouldn’t be planning on it at all.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:03 PM   #124
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I would extend him two years, converting his salary this year to a signing bonus that can be mortised, while dramatically lowering his base salary and cap number for the next four seasons, allowing us to get out from under it later.
Houston is a shell of his former self. Extending him would be as dumb as extending Hali was. Houston either needs to take a significant pay cut or be released. We can save $14 million by releasing him. They should also seriously consider moving on from Berry in 2020. It's time to go young on defense and build around young players.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:06 PM   #125
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Houston is a shell of his former self. Extending him would be as dumb as extending Hali was. Houston either needs to take a significant pay cut or be released. We can save $14 million by releasing him. They should also seriously consider moving on from Berry in 2020. It's time to go young on defense and build around young players.
This is a false narrative. Houston just blew up the Steelers for a strip sack and defensive touchdown. Sorry he couldn’t beat the refs, as well.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:10 PM   #126
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Houston is a shell of his former self. Extending him would be as dumb as extending Hali was. Houston either needs to take a significant pay cut or be released. We can save $14 million by releasing him. They should also seriously consider moving on from Berry in 2020. It's time to go young on defense and build around young players.
That requires actually drafting some to build around..the 2 best defensive players on the team were drafted by the previous regime.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:14 PM   #127
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That requires actually drafting some to build around..the 2 best defensive players on the team were drafted by the previous regime.
Well of course that's a whole different story. This regime has been unable to find talent on defense.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:15 PM   #128
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This is a false narrative. Houston just blew up the Steelers for a strip sack and defensive touchdown. Sorry he couldn’t beat the refs, as well.
That's one play. Most of the time he simply doesn't pass the eye test.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:17 PM   #129
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That's one play. Most of the time he simply doesn't pass the eye test.
He also would’ve gotten to Ben had he not been blatantly held on the scramble that almost went past the LOS.

He hasn’t been nearly as bad as the box score would lead you to believe, but I do agree that he needs to play better.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:25 PM   #130
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He also would’ve gotten to Ben had he not been blatantly held on the scramble that almost went past the LOS.

He hasn’t been nearly as bad as the box score would lead you to believe, but I do agree that he needs to play better.
The problem is, at his salary he can't just be decent. His salary should bring a performance similar to what Von Miller or Khalil Mack bring on a weekly basis. I know that's probably never going to happen, so it's probably time to start planning for a future beyond Houston.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:37 PM   #131
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He also would’ve gotten to Ben had he not been blatantly held on the scramble that almost went past the LOS.

He hasn’t been nearly as bad as the box score would lead you to believe, but I do agree that he needs to play better.
The sports radio guys are basically spouting the narrative that he's useless.

"Just watch him, he does nothing" So that take is probably going to be pretty popular.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:36 PM   #132
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The great thing about the situation is that you can actually spend most/all of the high picks on defense again.

As it stands right now, on the offense they need to re-sign/sign a Center, a 2nd string tight end and a wide receiver. I say if the offense keeps looking like this, bring everyone back on offense (Conley, DAT, Morse hell maybe Harris if cheap enough) and splurge on the defense in FA and the draft.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:47 PM   #133
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The great thing about the situation is that you can actually spend most/all of the high picks on defense again.

As it stands right now, on the offense they need to re-sign/sign a Center, a 2nd string tight end and a wide receiver. I say if the offense keeps looking like this, bring everyone back on offense (Conley, DAT, Morse hell maybe Harris if cheap enough) and splurge on the defense in FA and the draft.
You have to have a few role players or one injury can totally screw you.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:53 PM   #134
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If he's playing the robber, that's on Nelson
It seems like Nelson also struggled with following his receiver rather than passing him off.

Bottom line - they looked like a team that hadn't ever practiced together, let alone played a game together. They have to dial way back on their number of zone calls because that secondary simply doesn't seem able to play it together.

I don't know if it's a Murray problem or a Nelson problem, but the both of those guys mixed together was sure as hell SOME kind of problem. And when you have ILB's that aren't comfortable getting the right depth on their drops as well...man, there's just open grass all over the place out there.

Gotta ride or die with man coverage and hope to generate some pressure right now, IMO.
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I had high hopes that Murray had pulled it together during the offseason. sigh
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