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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-04-2015, 04:04 PM   #106
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FG crowdsource has Gordon #9 FA and Leake #12, him getting 4/56. That's a lotta dough. Doesn't 18/yr buy you more than that????


Duncan you like Dex Fowler in the past. 4/56 also, and he's 29. Might be a good fit here.
What are you referencing with your 18/yr question? Where does that figure come from?
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:08 PM   #107
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Completely random thought, but Daniel Murphy might be a cheap LF backup option. Not sure what his D would look like - I'd guess "bad," but his offensive profile is interesting (even without the HR surge).
After reading the Mets forum, Bob Dole figured he was already on our payroll.
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:34 PM   #108
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Gordon can be had for 5/$75 & Zobrist for 4/$50.

Can the Royals afford that?
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:39 PM   #109
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How about Colby Rasmus?

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Low-priced dingers, with extra potential attached. When Rasmus is right, he looks like the power demon he was in the postseason.

The Astros were glad they scooped him up. His next team probably will be, too, unless we're talking a four or five-year deal.
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:52 PM   #110
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Gordon can be had for 5/$75 & Zobrist for 4/$50.

Can the Royals afford that?
I don't think we could get them at that price. However, we would easily be able to afford both at that price and would do it in an instant.
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Old 11-04-2015, 05:32 PM   #111
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I am on board with Dyson and Orlando in RF. They don't cost too much and the combination of those two is definitely serviceable. You also basically know what you are going to get from them. Their style of play works so well here.

I saw Dexter Fowler mentioned as well. His defense kind of sort of sucks and he strikes out a bit too much. He is not our kind of player. No thanks.
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Old 11-04-2015, 05:39 PM   #112
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That's to be expected on declining Rios' and Guthrie's options.

Rios was projected to be paid $12,000,000 - buyout of $1,500,000 = $10,500,000 saved.
Guts was projected to be paid $10,000,000 - buyout of $3,200,000 = $6,800,000 saved.

Royals saved $17,300,000 by declining their options, only paying off $4,700,000 of their buyout.
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Old 11-04-2015, 05:48 PM   #113
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That's the strange thing about being in the World Series. The season ends and bam, right into free agency. No time to decompress from the season. Most everyone else has been waiting a month.
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That's the strange thing about being in the World Series. The season ends and bam, right into free agency. No time to decompress from the season. Most everyone else has been waiting a month.
Yeah, kind of crazy how quickly it turns back to business.... but, usually in these parts the offseason changes can't come quick enough.
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