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Old 10-25-2017, 02:49 PM  
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The best and worst QBs when the opponent scores 24+

So there seems to be some question as to the validity of this metric in determining a quarterback's worth.

I assure you, it's nigh infallible, as we will prove post haste.

***The Official List of QB records vs teams scoring at least 24 points***

(active bolded/includes playoffs/starts only):

55 QBs on this list, 24 active, 21 retired.

TIER I (30 wins or .300 or better). Elites, HOFers. No game managers.

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Tom Brady 47-48 (.495 GOAT)
Joe Montana 23-25 (.479)
Aaron Rodgers 25-36 (.410)
Derek Carr 12-18 (.400) THIS SEEMS TO BODE WELL
Randall Cunningham: 19-29 (.396)
Peyton Manning 44-73 (.376)
Andrew Luck 15-26 (.367)
Matt Ryan 25-46 (.352)
Jim Kelly 20-37 (.351)
Kurt Warner 21-39 (.350)
Roger Staubach 10-19 (.345)
Tony Romo 17-37 (.315)
Drew Brees 39-85 (.314)
Johnny Unitas 18-38-2 (.310)
Rich Gannon 15-34 (.306)
Philip Rivers 25-57 (.305)
Brett Favre 35-83 (.296)
TIER II (20 wins or .215 or better) Elites, HOFers who had a rough go at some point, good QBs.

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Joe Flacco 16-38 (.296)
John Elway 22-53 (0.293)
Ben Roethlisberger 17-41 (.293)
Drew Bledsoe 21-51 (.292)
Joe Theismann 11-27 (.289)
Trent Green 17-42 (.288)
Dan Fouts 24-61 (0.282)
Donovan McNabb 14-36 (.280)
Steve Young 12-32 (.272)
Michael Vick 15-41-1 (.263)
Russell Wilson 7-20 (.259)
Cam Newton 11-31-1 (.256)
Dan Marino 22-64 (.255)
Matt Schaub 13-39 (.250)
Andy Dalton 10-28-2 (.250)
Matthew Stafford 14-44 (.241)
Kirk Cousins 7-21-1 (.241)
Len Dawson 12-37-2 (.235)
Jay Cutler 14-48 (.225)
Steve McNair 12-42 (.222)
Warren Moon 20-72 (.217)
Eli Manning 22-80 (.215) MENDOZA LINE FOR MODERN DAY QB RELEVANCY. ABANDON HOPE BELOW.
TIER III (10 wins or fewer or less than .215) Worthless vagabond mediocre game manager retreads

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Ryan Tannehill 7-26 (.212)
Chad Pennington 6-23 (.207)
Matt Cassel 8-31 (.205)
Sam Bradford 7-26-1 (.205)

Matt Hasselbeck 15-61 (.197)
Jon Kitna 12-53 (0.184)
Mark Sanchez 6-27 (.181)
Steve DeBerg 12-56 (0.176)
Jake Plummer 10-47 (.175)
Alex Smith 9-42-1 (.173)
Kerry Collins 12-64 (.158)
Brad Johnson 5-30 (.142)
Jeff George 8-52 (.133)
Vinny Testaverde 11-77 (.125)
Trent Dilfer 4-29 (.121)
Bill Kenney: 3-24 (.111)
Blake Bortles 3-24 (.111)
Ryan Fitzpatrick 6-49 (.109)
Josh McCown 3-29 (.093)
TIER IV

Spoiler!


(Current starters not listed due to low sample size: Wentz, Goff, Siemian, Winston, Prescott, Mariota, Taylor, Trubisky, Hoyer, Browns flavor of the week)

This list not only proves the validity of the stat via NFL history, but compares Smith to most of his relevant peers still playing the NFL. In both cases he comes up vastly, VASTLY short.

Close closed.

Tip your game manager on the way out.

And in case you were wondering...

Spoiler!


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Old 10-25-2017, 02:51 PM   #2
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This further validates the claim that defense wins championships.

Even the greatest of all time has a losing record when D's allow 24+
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Everyone should agree that if your defense gives up 24+ points then you're in trouble. However, it's clear that some quarterbacks are better than others at still finding a way to win despite the defense sucking.
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This further validates the claim that defense wins championships.

Even the greatest of all time has a losing record when D's allow 24+
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Everyone should agree that if your defense gives up 24+ points then you're in trouble. However, it's clear that some quarterbacks are better than others at still finding a way to win despite the defense sucking.
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Randall Cunningham: 19-29 (.396)
Chad Pennington 6-23 (.207)
Bill Kenney: 3-24 (.111)
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Holy shit!!!! Alex Smith is a worse QB than Matt Cassel!!!!!!
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Holy shit!!!! Alex Smith is a worse QB than Matt Cassel!!!!!!
Here's what's really going to blow your mind.

Last year at this time, Smith was 4-40-1 (.0889)

That would be at the bottom of this entire list.

Are we witnessing a career renaissance or a statistical outlier?
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Cassel is Smith - Smith is Cassel.

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This further validates the claim that defense wins championships.

Even the greatest of all time has a losing record when D's allow 24+
yeah until he literally wins one more game,

that stat is incredible...and its telling

if you dont see a difference between 20% and 49.5% i really do not know what to say
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