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Old 10-10-2010, 08:41 PM  
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Disappointed in McCluster
Bla bla bla, he's a playmaker, he has two touchdowns already, whatever.

He has seven catches for 93 yards. 1/3 of that yardage came on one play. At least two of those are screen passes I believe.

That ****ing sucks.

This guy needs to be a threat as a WIDE RECEIVER. He hasnt made a single play down the field. I'm not even talking 20 yards. How about 10? How about coming off the line, putting your foot in the ground, getting open and giving Cassel a target?

I'm not willing to accept the idea that Cassel is so god awful he makes all our wide receivers look terrible.

McCluster hasn't done shit yet. And he was utter garbage in Indy.

Don't buy any of his ****ing t-shirts.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:23 PM   #76
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I already qualified that.

Not looking for a ****ing bomb.

How about a nice 10-yard out?
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You mean like the baddass catch he made that was nullified by the BS holding call on Albert?
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I'm pretty sure that DMC has caught everything thrown his way... I remember one drop on a bubble screen but that's it.
We really don't need to worry about this player.

Did no one see his great sideline catch today that was wiped out (thanks B Albert)?
He has exceeded expectations in the first quarter of the season, IMO.
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Let's not forget McClusters 3rd down tight rope catch on the sideline that got called back. That was pretty clutch despite the hold.
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McCluster is 2 pass receptions behind our supposedly #1 WR.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:23 PM   #77
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You can really sit there with a straight face and think that Haley and Weis and Pioli think Cassel is even doing what Vinny did with the Jets?
I would assume not.

I would state this more confidently if we hadn't made so many moves last off-season to accommodate Cassel, when it should have been sufficiently clear then that he wasn't the answer.

Hell, it should have been clear to Pioli before he arrived in KC, but I digress.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:24 PM   #78
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How do you expect him to get open when no one respects the deep ball?

It's like a damn obstacle course within ten yards of the LOS.
Beats me. He should smoke whatever Moeaki's smoking.
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You really don't believe that, do you? You act like these guys are Carl and Herm. You're talking about a front office and coaching staff that over the last 20 years has a pretty good record of working with big armed pocket QB's. Brady, Bledsoe, Testeverde, and Warner included in their various stops.

You can really sit there with a straight face and think that Haley and Weis and Pioli think Cassel is even doing what Vinny did with the Jets?
Sometimes you take a gamble on a QB and you win, sometimes you lose. I can't remember anyone from the front office come out and start talking about Cassel is playing at a probowl level. And yes, we do understand that without the people he trusted for his first draft Pioli did a terrible job, shocked I am...
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You really don't believe that, do you? You act like these guys are Carl and Herm. You're talking about a front office and coaching staff that over the last 20 years has a pretty good record of working with big armed pocket QB's. Brady, Bledsoe, Testeverde, and Warner included in their various stops.

You can really sit there with a straight face and think that Haley and Weis and Pioli think Cassel is even doing what Vinny did with the Jets?
When a guy that throws 4 INT's in a game tells the media he graded out with no errors, I have no reason to think otherwise.

This regime refuses to say anything remotely negative about the guy, while having no problem holding other players accountable. What has Cassel done to deserve that?

So until they sit his ass on the bench, or cut his ass, I don't see my opinion changing on this.

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I would assume not.

I would state this more confidently if we hadn't made so many moves last off-season to accommodate Cassel, when it should have been sufficiently clear then that he wasn't the answer.

Hell, it should have been clear to Pioli before he arrived in KC, but I digress.
Another good point.

They obviously didn't think he was the problem last year, so I'm not sure why they'd change their mind this year.
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Beats me. He should smoke whatever Moeaki's smoking.
You're comparing a TE who's used to working in traffic to a guy that's learning a new position on the fly.
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You mean as a second rounder who played RB in college? Our third option at WR isn't playing like a seasoned first WR by his fourth game!?
Who said anything about seasoned vet?

Christ. Read the thread again.

Right now the guy is a glorified backfield gimmick.

Anyone remember the threads about Percy Harvin?
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When a guy that throws 4 INT's in a game tells the media he graded out with no errors, I have no reason to think otherwise.

This regime refuses to say anything remotely negative about the guy, while having no problem holding other players accountable. What has Cassel done to deserve that?

So until they sit his ass on the bench, or cut his ass, I don't see my opinion changing on this.

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I think it's the same reason Dick Vermeil used to praise Eric Hicks and ride Larry Johnson, but that will just make people more angry. But as I've always said I don't take what's said to the media at face value at all.
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Perhaps the most disappointing isn't his lack of production as a WR, but the realization that SD's special teams are historically bad. They might be the worst ST unit of all time.

2 blocked kicks, and 3 KR TDs in 5 ****ing games.

Takes a little of the shine off of that PR TD.
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Beats me. He should smoke whatever Moeaki's smoking.
He could smoke it, or worry about eating after the smoke to put on another 60 pounds, at least, and grow another 6 inches, which would be more useful in traffic.
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I think it's the same reason Dick Vermeil used to praise Eric Hicks and ride Larry Johnson, but that will just make people more angry. But as I've always said I don't take what's said to the media at face value at all.
Actions speak louder than words.

And they keep throwing him out there, and went out of their way to get him some "help" in the offseason.

I think it's pretty clear they don't think he's the problem.
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I would assume not.

I would state this more confidently if we hadn't made so many moves last off-season to accommodate Cassel, when it should have been sufficiently clear then that he wasn't the answer.

Hell, it should have been clear to Pioli before he arrived in KC, but I digress.
I hated the Cassel trade but I do have a theory. Maybe the plan was to bring in a QB that knew the system and the "Patriot Way" knowing all along that after the 2nd year when they are ready to contend they could move on from him unless of course he turned into Tom Brady.
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I hated the Cassel trade but I do have a theory. Maybe the plan was to bring in a QB that knew the system and the "Patriot Way" knowing all along that after the 2nd year when they are ready to contend they could move on from him unless of course he turned into Tom Brady.
That's bull****, and you know it. You don't give a guy 30 million guaranteed if you think he's just a transitional character guy.
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I hated the Cassel trade but I do have a theory. Maybe the plan was to bring in a QB that knew the system and the "Patriot Way" knowing all along that after the 2nd year when they are ready to contend they could move on from him unless of course he turned into Tom Brady.
That makes no sense at all.
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