Chiefs B-B-B-BUT Derek Carr is the best and the Chiefs are trash? - Page 9

Chief Northman · 10-16-2016, 04:52 PM

Come choke down your CROW.

YOU ****ING KNOW WHO YOU ARE....

**jjchieffan** · 10-17-2016, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

It was suppose to be somewhat comical since it was a quote from Billy Madison. I don't see how anybody would take Smith over Carr. Good QBs make bad WRs look good. He's getting the best out of Crabtree. Maclin dropped big time in production with Smith. He would be a different WR if we had Carr, no doubt about it.

For the record, Carr is FAR from being elite.

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?

Que Card QB · 10-17-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead

the only thing i don't like about that video is that its four years old, with no chiefs highlights. it exacerbates the theory while a chief he has lost that touch.

Got to have receivers and protection. Hasn't had any recievers for the first few years of his career here. Maclin is the first receiver he's had since coming to the Chiefs that can give him that when the Oline holds up. Sunday was perfect example of good protection, good running game, and deep receivers. He had two beautiful deep passes.

**SAUTO** · 10-17-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead

at this point in alex's career, aside from interceptions, carr will exceed everything smith ever achieved. or injury obviously. i love the chiefs, but alex has worn thin.

He's gonna throw more ints too

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-17-2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

I don't care what anyone says, this shit is funny every...single...year.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-17-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Everybody wants the best for the team. But Smith is here and right now he is what's best for this team. He's the starter. He's winning consistently and got us our first playoff win in a quarter century. Would it have been nice if the Chiefs had drafted Carr? Yes. But we didn't. Why just whine and complain about it? Carr is still young and unproven. He may get better than Smith. but right now, he's not. The poster made a valid point that Carr hasn't been able to beat good teams. But you don't want to acknowledge that. He is a young quarterback drafted by another team and he's not Smith. That's all that matters to you, Clay, and Dagnabit.

I have to disagree. His decision making against good teams has cost them a lot of games. Carr is not the right fit for our win-now situation as our vets are aging. If we were in rebuild mode then sure making a move for Carr 3 years ago would have made sense but we had far too much talent on our roster to risk letting a rookie run the show.

Only Russell Wilson has been successful at being the day 1 starter right out of draft day and having consistent success of any QB we've seen over the last 10 years+, his maturity and talent are on a whole different level from Carr/Wentz/Luck/Newton/Bridgewater/Mariota

**jjchieffan** · 10-17-2016, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock

I am not an Alex Smith hater. In fact, i think Smith is an average QB that can make some nice throws on occasion.
My point is this, Carr has a great arm, is young and is ascending.
Would i rather have Carr over Dee Ford? Absolutely!
That shit isn't happening so I deal with Alex Smith and Dee Ford. This doesn't mean I can't point out good ascending QB's when i see them.

That's fine. I wanted Carr over Ford too. But that's a far cry from what the haters do. Looking for every opportunity to bash Smith and talk about how much better some other quarterback is. Clay has praised Hoyer, Fitzpatrick, Semen, Carr, etc... Saying how much better they are than Smith. Week after week after week. And we all get sick of hearing it. Especially when he is wrong and he knows it, but he continues to spew it just to troll the site.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-17-2016, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?

Yup and that's considering he's operating in an offense that has a run first mentality.

Easily one of the most efficient receivers last season. Not highly explosive, but his impact on the offense's success was second to none for us last season.

In58men · 10-17-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?

WR 3 in fantasy football

MeatRock · 10-17-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

That's fine. I wanted Carr over Ford too. But that's a far cry from what the haters do. Looking for every opportunity to bash Smith and talk about how much better some other quarterback is. Clay has praised Hoyer, Fitzpatrick, Semen, Carr, etc... Saying how much better they are than Smith. Week after week after week. And we all get sick of hearing it. Especially when he is wrong and he knows it, but he continues to spew it just to troll the site.

Believe me, i know all about what Clay, Sweet Dick Willy/Dagnabit/ROR and other dickwads are spewin.

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-17-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I have to disagree. His decision making against good teams has cost them a lot of games. Carr is not the right fit for our win-now situation as our vets are aging. If we were in rebuild mode then sure making a move for Carr 3 years ago would have made sense but we had far too much talent on our roster to risk letting a rookie run the show.

This is a fair point. The thing is, there are plenty of people who think the 'win now' idea was a deception based on selling the fans that we had a chance to win a ring now...which many feel is/was not true.

Thus I think many of us would have preferred to start rebuilding with a pick like carr, instead of pretending we could go all the way with alex...and selling seats.

The organization was in free fall / rebellion..seats were not selling for the 1st time since I can remember after winning like 8 games in 3 seasons......and then the cassel debacle.

I completely understand that we needed to win some games now and stop the bleeding, financially...and sell some seats. I get that. I just personally feel it would have been worth the risk to let a rookie 'run the show' for the reward it could have paid off in the future...

Whatever slim chances we have to make any real waves in the playoffs since we traded for him in 2013 are fading rapidly...so in a sense there are 2 pespectives here:

1) He has done his job, stabilized the franchise and prevented a full blown exodus or 'paper bag head' syndrome and broken the 93 playoff curse.

2) its possible we mortgaged away a little (or more) of our present and future by trading for him and contiuing to act as if we can go all the way with him at QB.

I personally dont think there is anything wrong with acknowledging the truths about the scenario....and the pros and cons of it all. Every decision has pros and cons. If it turns out we don't do much in the playoffs, ever with smith.....then I think it will be undeniable what the pros and cons are.

Nickhead · 10-17-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

He's gonna their more ints too

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at this point in alex's career, aside from interceptions, carr will exceed everything smith ever achieved. or injury obviously. i love the chiefs, but alex has worn thin.

i do think i covered that aspect

**TimBone** · 10-17-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

That seems nice, but still irrelvant.

I completely agree that it is...but that seems to be the big argument around here.

Like I said, Ford is here, and I'm rooting for him.

**TimBone** · 10-17-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

You do realize that Maclin had the second best yardage total of his career last year right?

Inmen is an idiot. Even when he has a valid point, he still somehow makes it sound stupid.

**jjchieffan** · 10-17-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I have to disagree. His decision making against good teams has cost them a lot of games. Carr is not the right fit for our win-now situation as our vets are aging. If we were in rebuild mode then sure making a move for Carr 3 years ago would have made sense but we had far too much talent on our roster to risk letting a rookie run the show.

Only Russell Wilson has been successful at being the day 1 starter right out of draft day and having consistent success of any QB we've seen over the last 10 years+, his maturity and talent are on a whole different level from Carr/Wentz/Luck/Newton/Bridgewater/Mariota

Nah. Carr would've been a good choice regardless. If we didn't choose to start him immediately, then he could've sat behind Smith ala Rodgers sitting behind Favre for a few years. Andy is good with quarterbacks and may have had Carr starting by now for us. Not to mention, he wouldn't be a Faider.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-17-2016, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

I. Good QBs make bad WRs look good. He's getting the best out of Crabtree. Maclin dropped big time in production with Smith. He would be a different WR if we had Carr, no doubt about it.

For the record, Carr is FAR from being elite.

Oakland doesn't have bad wrs, so that doesn't translate into a + for Carr.

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