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Old 07-23-2014, 07:17 AM  
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2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat

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With 707 horsepower and 650 pound-feet of torque the SRT Hellcat’s supercharged 6.2-liter V8 can burn through 1.5 gallons of gas per minute at peak performance. That rate would theoretically drain the fuel tank in 13 minutes.
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Old 07-31-2014, 03:12 AM   #61
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Quicker than I thought it would be. didn't think the car would hook that well..And speed is relative... 10.85 is not fast and neither is 126 mph out the back door. Especially for 700 hp.

Those times could be accomplished with less than 400 hp at 3000lbs. I just don't understand why companies keep building cars like the zl1 camaro, gt500, and this challenger with all this horsepower, that weigh a ton and dont hook worth a crap.

I'm curious though what other cars you could purchase from the dealer with the Challenger's performance and in its price range. Personally, as I've gotten older, I have become less inclined to spend the time and energy required to produce my own muscle car and would rather just shell out the bucks to the dealer.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:31 AM   #62
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I'm curious though what other cars you could purchase from the dealer with the Challenger's performance and in its price range. Personally, as I've gotten older, I have become less inclined to spend the time and energy required to produce my own muscle car and would rather just shell out the bucks to the dealer.
For the price dealers are going to put on that challenger, you can get a Nissan GTR which has less HP, a faster 0-60, faster 1320 and handles light years beter around the curvies. Stock tires too.. no drag radials needed lol.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:37 AM   #63
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Very entertaining thread, the more things change, the more they remain the same.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:05 AM   #64
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Quicker than I thought it would be. didn't think the car would hook that well..And speed is relative... 10.85 is not fast and neither is 126 mph out the back door. Especially for 700 hp.

Those times could be accomplished with less than 400 hp at 3000lbs. I just don't understand why companies keep building cars like the zl1 camaro, gt500, and this challenger with all this horsepower, that weigh a ton and dont hook worth a crap.
Could be worse, $1.1M for the ugliest, heaviest, chintziest most slapdash 'supercar' ever.

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Old 07-31-2014, 07:36 AM   #65
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Quicker than I thought it would be. didn't think the car would hook that well..And speed is relative... 10.85 is not fast and neither is 126 mph out the back door. Especially for 700 hp.

Those times could be accomplished with less than 400 hp at 3000lbs. I just don't understand why companies keep building cars like the zl1 camaro, gt500, and this challenger with all this horsepower, that weigh a ton and dont hook worth a crap.
You are getting a bit carried away here. I get your point but 400Hp in a 3000lb car is running closer to 11.8 in the qtr. You need 500HP to get to 11 flat.

http://robrobinette.com/et.htm?weight=3000

The cars (Camaros and Challengers) are heavy and that's why they need 600-700HP to truly be quick.

700HP in a 3000lb car gets you into the 9's.
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:04 AM   #66
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For the price dealers are going to put on that challenger, you can get a Nissan GTR which has less HP, a faster 0-60, faster 1320 and handles light years beter around the curvies. Stock tires too.. no drag radials needed lol.
The GTR is a $110K car now and isn't all that great on the curves (understeers due to the AWD).
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:53 AM   #67
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The GTR is a $110K car now and isn't all that great on the curves (understeers due to the AWD).
LOL, have you ever driven one? I have pushed one pretty hard and the car stuck to the road like glue.

At the time I was driving my 650 crank HP trans am as my weekend car, and got a chance to contrast and compare. My trans am was faster, but handled like a boat,( FULL suspension components on the T/A by the way) the GTR was a marvel of engineering, stuck to the road, and was still close to as fast as the T/A.

edit: Numberwise my all motor T/A making ~650 crank HP ran 10.8 on drag radials (not slicks) and skinnys, if that puts that argument into perspective.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:01 AM   #68
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:14 AM   #69
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LOL, have you ever driven one? I have pushed one pretty hard and the car stuck to the road like glue.

At the time I was driving my 650 crank HP trans am as my weekend car, and got a chance to contrast and compare. My trans am was faster, but handled like a boat,( FULL suspension components on the T/A by the way) the GTR was a marvel of engineering, stuck to the road, and was still close to as fast as the T/A.

edit: Numberwise my all motor T/A making ~650 crank HP ran 10.8 on drag radials (not slicks) and skinnys, if that puts that argument into perspective.
I don't disagree that the GTR is an engineering marvel. It is a fantastic car. It is also way overrated by a lot of people and not close to the bargain that it was when it was launched.

It's also possible for anyone to drive it hard and fast due to the engineering and computer assists.
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The GTR is a $110K car now and isn't all that great on the curves (understeers due to the AWD).
I wasn't even thinking about a new 2015 model, you can new 2014's for 90K easy or a 2012-2013 with less than 5k miles for 75-80. GTR is just more appealing to me coming from a subaru background and NY weather. If it handles anything like my STI then its definitely not 'overrated' in the twisties.
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I wasn't even thinking about a new 2015 model, you can new 2014's for 90K easy or a 2012-2013 with less than 5k miles for 75-80. GTR is just more appealing to me coming from a subaru background and NY weather. If it handles anything like my STI then its definitely not 'overrated' in the twisties.
Are you aware of what the maintenance requirements and costs are for the GTR?
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Are you aware of what the maintenance requirements and costs are for the GTR?
I've looked through their maintenance manual before.. nothing I didn't expect for a car like that. When my daughters get a bit older, I'll get rid of my modified STI and pick up a used GTR. RWD fun car would be a waste where I am.
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I've looked through their maintenance manual before.. nothing I didn't expect for a car like that. When my daughters get a bit older, I'll get rid of my modified STI and pick up a used GTR. RWD fun car would be a waste where I am.
Enjoy those $2000 transmission fluid changes.
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Enjoy those $2000 transmission fluid changes.
I've had several friends own GTR's and this is BS. Ya you CAN take it to the dealer and let them rape you on it and pay that. Or when you buy one you can get it included in the contract for the car.

Or anybody that appreciates and modifies the car like some people are saying in this thread you do it yourself for a couple hundred bucks.

Also i will say that the hellcat is a nice looking car and for the price compared to GTR's and ZL1's and Shelby's it's a steal. But they are boats for sure.



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Enjoy those $2000 transmission fluid changes.
Additional cost of ownership after MSRP weighs heavily in favor of the GT-R. GT-R is just cheaper to operate. I think 5yr costs on a Challenger are around 20k. While the GT-R's under 10K.
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