The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread

[mdchiefsfan]

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by JD10367

The way the scene is edited, we can extrapolate "extra time" in there. They show Batman at the controls, then they show a long-distant shot,then they show the timer at 0:05. That doesn't necessarily mean he was at the controls at 0:07. Given the speed of the Batplane, it's possible he could've been at the edge of the blast radius.

Or maybe his buddy Superman swooped in and grabbed him, I dunno.

It also doesn't mean he was necessarily piloting the Batwing that as carrying the nuke. Seeing it again in 30 minutes, will pay better attention to that scene.

[tk13]

Isn't it possible he just dropped the thing in the water? The Batwing outran missiles earlier in the film... it had speed. I'd have to watch that scene again.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by tk13

Isn't it possible he just dropped the thing in the water? The Batwing outran missiles earlier in the film... it had speed. I'd have to watch that scene again.

When they show the counter at 0:05 there is no indication that it's under water. They state in the film that the blast radius is six miles. Hence, from bomb detonation point, you'd have to be three miles away. To fly three miles in one minute you'd have to be moving at 180MPH. When you add it all up, it seems like the Batplane is toast.

[JD10367]

One thing not mentioned: the implication that Catwoman is bisexual. She has a little lackey girlfriend who shows up: 1) in the fingerprint scene as her little helper, 2) in the "she stole my wallet" scene as Catwoman's apparent low-level partner and probable roommate, 3) when Wayne shows up at the house she's there again ("he's not a mark"), and 4) when Selina Kyle is looking through the remnants of someone's home, and her little girlfriend shows up and puts her head on her back and hugs her from behind. Hawt. (Especially since Kyle is clearly the dom and probably is into S&M with her little submissive.)

[JD10367]

But notice how quickly Kyle dumps the little tart to run off to Europe. Cold hearted bitch. Although maybe she took her with her; Bruce deserves a threesome.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by JD10367

One thing not mentioned: the implication that Catwoman is bisexual. She has a little lackey girlfriend who shows up: 1) in the fingerprint scene as her little helper, 2) in the "she stole my wallet" scene as Catwoman's apparent low-level partner and probable roommate, 3) when Wayne shows up at the house she's there again ("he's not a mark"), and 4) when Selina Kyle is looking through the remnants of someone's home, and her little girlfriend shows up and puts her head on her back and hugs her from behind. Hawt. (Especially since Kyle is clearly the dom and probably is into S&M with her little submissive.)

Yea, I caught all that too,.but they just dropped it at the end.
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Watching the first two tonight in preparation. Don't know when I'll see this one, but I'll be ready.

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[Brock]

Originally Posted by JD10367

One thing not mentioned: the implication that Catwoman is bisexual. She has a little lackey girlfriend who shows up: 1) in the fingerprint scene as her little helper, 2) in the "she stole my wallet" scene as Catwoman's apparent low-level partner and probable roommate, 3) when Wayne shows up at the house she's there again ("he's not a mark"), and 4) when Selina Kyle is looking through the remnants of someone's home, and her little girlfriend shows up and puts her head on her back and hugs her from behind. Hawt. (Especially since Kyle is clearly the dom and probably is into S&M with her little submissive.)

It's derived from the Frank Miller Year One series.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by JD10367

One thing not mentioned: the implication that Catwoman is bisexual. She has a little lackey girlfriend who shows up: 1) in the fingerprint scene as her little helper, 2) in the "she stole my wallet" scene as Catwoman's apparent low-level partner and probable roommate, 3) when Wayne shows up at the house she's there again ("he's not a mark"), and 4) when Selina Kyle is looking through the remnants of someone's home, and her little girlfriend shows up and puts her head on her back and hugs her from behind. Hawt. (Especially since Kyle is clearly the dom and probably is into S&M with her little submissive.)

I took that as her bring manipulative and getting others to do what she wishes. You've seen it more than me so I respect your views, I am about to see it on monday again, but I see no reasons for those implications.

[JD10367]

So is it just me, or does Bane without his mask look like Rob Gronkowski?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Was that the bat signal at the end? Does that mean he's still gonna be Batman? Will there be a Batman and Robin movie now?

my take is that JGL's "Robin" will actually e the next Batman. Nolan was notoriously not a fan of Robin. With Wayne sprucing up the bat signal and all the talk about Batman being anonymous it totally points to him intending Batman to live on.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

heh, whats funny is, i believe Nolan has gone on record before and said that he would never bring in Robin into his version of Batman.

who says he did? I don't think he did.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

my take is that JGL's "Robin" will actually e the next Batman. Nolan was notoriously not a fan of Robin. With Wayne sprucing up the bat signal and all the talk about Batman being anonymous it totally points to him intending Batman to live on.

One thing I will say, at risk of sounding dorky, is that this movie followed the comic book Knightfall, just like Batman Begins followed Batman: Year one and Dark Knight followed Killing Joke. After Knightfall Bruce Wayne retires and Tim Drake (John Blake) takes the guarding of Gotham as Robin on his own. They followed the comics pretty well in this story.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batma...fall#section_2

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by JD10367

When they show the counter at 0:05 there is no indication that it's under water. They state in the film that the blast radius is six miles. Hence, from bomb detonation point, you'd have to be three miles away. To fly three miles in one minute you'd have to be moving at 180MPH. When you add it all up, it seems like the Batplane is toast.

Yep. I made a point to pay close attention during my second viewing tonight.

He couldn't have dropped it in the bay, as JD just pointed out.

So that leaves two options:

Spoiler!

Either he bailed out at some point over the water, and let auto-pilot take over. Unlikely he'd survive considering it's winter-time, the rivers were iced over, the water in the bay would be freezing.

Or, he bailed just after struggling to gain enough altitude to clear that building (was the Bat Lucious took the EMP out of on top of this building?) with the explosion (Blake's "it's starting" comment on bridge") creating a diversion for the switch?

Again, maybe I'm off base here, but I really think there are three Bats.

1.) After the Wall Street scene, Bruce comes back to Wayne Manor in a Bat, and parks it in the cave.

2.) The next time we see a Bat, it's parked on the roof of a building - the Bat Fox takes the EMP out of.

3.) There is a gray, unpainted Bat in Applied Sciences in the beginning of the movie, and this appears to be the same Bat that techs are looking at with Fox at the end - they claim the auto-pilot software was patched 6 months ago.

All three could have been in play. We know at least two of them were.

The only other thing I can think of if he didn't physically switch Bats is that he flew out to sea, and the cockpit itself broke into a smaller vehicle, much like the BatPod did when the Tumbler was incapacitated. He then flew off, letting the auto-pilot take over for what was left of the Bat.

You'd have to think someone would notice this though, which makes me think he bailed earlier, potentially under the cover of that exploding building.

[scorpio]

Apparently John Blake does appear in the comics, however briefly: