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Old 07-17-2017, 10:40 AM  
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Panthers fire GM Gettlemen

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Old 07-17-2017, 01:00 PM   #31
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But John wants to GM the Packers and only the Packers!
He was fired for asking for an out to go to the Packers! It wasn't about money!
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:03 PM   #32
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Just due to the fact the Cowden was seen as a viable candidate when we were looking and he came to the Titans from the Panthers, I would imagine he would be a strong candidate for this job IMO.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:53 PM   #33
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Most owners are nowhere near as business savvy as they are painted. Jerry Richardson doing this now is moronic just like Clark's move to fire Dorsey when he did.
Guy brought up a great point today on SiriusXM, this might actually be the best time to do a move like this.

You don't punt a year of the draft. Your camp roster is pretty much set. You're competing with no one else to hire the guy you want.

I was pretty shocked when Dorsey got canned because of timing, but the timing may not be as big of an issue as I thought.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:55 PM   #34
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He was fired for asking for an out to go to the Packers! It wasn't about money!
You've read the same stuff I have. The initial reasoning of the out to Green Bay wasn't the issue at all according to guys like Terez and Albert Breer who seem plenty connected with the Chiefs..

Clark has shown he's willing to spend, and if he's willing to pay Dorsey for a year to basically go away, the problems were a lot more with him than just he wanted an out.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:23 PM   #35
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You've read the same stuff I have. The initial reasoning of the out to Green Bay wasn't the issue at all according to guys like Terez and Albert Breer who seem plenty connected with the Chiefs.
Dorsey was trying to squirm out and go to the Pack. I read it on CP. Hail Clark.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:27 PM   #36
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You've read the same stuff I have. The initial reasoning of the out to Green Bay wasn't the issue at all according to guys like Terez and Albert Breer who seem plenty connected with the Chiefs..

Clark has shown he's willing to spend, and if he's willing to pay Dorsey for a year to basically go away, the problems were a lot more with him than just he wanted an out.
Cochise is just trolling the Dorsey firing and has been since the day it was announced.

Ignore his stupidity.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:42 PM   #37
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The Panthers have relieved GM Dave Gettleman of his duties.

The Panthers finished 1st in the NFC South in 3 of Gettleman's 4 seasons as GM.
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:32 PM   #38
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The Panthers have relieved GM Dave Gettleman of his duties.

The Panthers finished 1st in the NFC South in 3 of Gettleman's 4 seasons as GM.
The Steelers have had multiple GM's in the past 45 years, yet three coaches and SIX Super Bowl wins.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:09 PM   #39
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I hear that Andy Reid was behind the Gettleman firing.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:19 PM   #40
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:35 PM   #41
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On my phone... this has some Dorsey stuff in it. Someone can post the article if they want
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:47 PM   #42
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Dorsey to Carolina wouldn't be that bad. At least it's out of the division
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:53 PM   #43
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It would be easy to lump all these men into the same category, but the situations of Gettleman, Dorsey and even Baalke fall on an entirely different spectrum. These are all men who attacked the job with a certain aggressiveness that ironically made it easy for them to become expendable.

They all had their strengths and lorded over a noteworthy amount of success within their respective organizations. They also all made public gaffes that came back to haunt them in the end.

Dorsey didn't inspire the same level of acrimony with players that Gettleman had -- Dorsey's decision to release wide receiver Jeremy Maclin in June via a voicemail left on Maclin's phone was his most notorious move -- but there was plenty to question during his time in Kansas City.

Yes, Dorsey was responsible for the roster of a team that won at least 11 games in three of the last four years. He also oversaw a team that routinely found itself in salary-cap hell, wound up paying more money to Pro Bowler Eric Berry on a long-term deal that was consummated after Berry excelled while playing under the franchise tag, and lost two draft picks for tampering related to the contract Maclin signed in 2015.

That might be the ultimate blessing for the Panthers and the Chiefs. Sure, their owners could've found successors in-house if they had moved quicker on the terminations (the Chiefs watched director of football operations Chris Ballard go to Indianapolis in January as a general manager, while the Panthers saw assistant general manager Brandon Beane replace Whaley in Buffalo in May).

However, there's something to be said for recognizing when a mistake has been made. The lesson to be learned here is that there's a lot more to being a general manager these days than simply picking the players.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:16 AM   #44
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You fire your GM this late in the game when one is available to improve your team. This is certain an attempt to grab Dorsey.
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Old 07-18-2017, 07:56 AM   #45
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Dorsey vs Fat Scott in the NFC South in a battle of which former GM will win a Super Bowl before the Chiefs do
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