Chiefs Is Fulton a better C than Morse? - Page 2

**petegz28** · 12-11-2017, 12:31 PM

I think it's obvious that Fulton is a much better C than he is a G. But it seems that for 2 seasons in a row, our O-line does better with him at C. Marginally, maybe. When Morse came back this year our line went to shit. Not saying it's Morse's fault but Morse at C and Fulton at G doesn't seem to work well.

Meanwhile, it seems whenever Morse goes down and Fulton goes to C we actually do pretty good.

**petegz28** · 12-11-2017, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Yeah, I don't think Morse has been healthy, which is an issue. Fulton has always been a better run-blocker, IMO. Perhaps his shortcomings in pass protect are mitigated at center.

I agree with this 100%.

Black Bob · 12-11-2017, 01:36 PM

We are definitely better with Fulton and Weitzman In there. Morse is bad.

ct · 12-11-2017, 01:40 PM

Healthy Morse is better C, but it looked very much like he was not healthy when he came back

C Fulton is far far better than G Fulton

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-11-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think Morse has been not great this year, so I'm all for moving Fulton for the rest of the way, shifting Morse to RG (or keeping him benched while we ride the hot hand).

Right guard?

You're benching LDT?

TEX · 12-11-2017, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I would re-sign him, put him at center and move Morse to LG.

I don't think he'll be better at Guard. Dude can't stay healthy. Told you last week what I'd do with him.

saphojunkie · 12-11-2017, 01:44 PM

LG, sorry. I got the ball rolling in the wrong direction.

saphojunkie · 12-11-2017, 01:45 PM

trade Smith. Draft OL and secondary.

Prophet.

oldman · 12-11-2017, 01:45 PM

Doc seems to be doing just fine at RG, so let's not mess with that. I'm beginning to think Fulton is a better C than Morse, but this isn't the time to be screwing around with the O-line. Re-sign Fulton and let Weitzman, Ehinger, and Devey fight it out in camp next year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-11-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Re-sign Fulton and let Weitzman, Ehinger, and Devey fight it out in camp next year.

Devey?

wut

ThaVirus · 12-11-2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Doc seems to be doing just fine at RG, so let's not mess with that. I'm beginning to think Fulton is a better C than Morse, but this isn't the time to be screwing around with the O-line. Re-sign Fulton and let Weitzman, Ehinger, and Devey fight it out in camp next year.

Now's as good a time as any.

They've sucked and they need to get better if we're planning on making any sort of splash.

DJ's left nut · 12-11-2017, 02:49 PM

I'm not entirely convinced Morse shouldn't be shut down for the year but I'm not sure why, if that makes any sense.

I agree that Fulton's been better at C than Morse this year. But Morse has never been worse at C in his entire career. It's not just the physical ability; he looks confused a lot. For a guy who came into the league with an innate sense of how to feel danger and provide help to linemates at the right time, that seems to have completely vanished.

I'm not at all inclined to give up on Morse because as a rookie he was one of the best Cs in the league and I'm convinced he can easily get back there again. But something's just not been right this year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-11-2017, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm not at all inclined to give up on Morse because as a rookie he was one of the best Cs in the league and I'm convinced he can easily get back there again. But something's just not been right this year.

I wouldn't give up on him but I wouldn't lock him up with an extension at this point, either.

I think his troubles stem from not being 100% physically, which throws him off mentally.

I think they should extend Fulton before he's allowed to hit Free Agency.

He has flaws but he's solid and man, they just seem to need him each and every season for a long stretch of games.

RippedmyFlesh · 12-11-2017, 03:46 PM

DJs post made me feel better about being confused about Morse. When you see the league adjust to an offense(wildcat) or a unique player(kap) there is early success then the defense is fine tuned and if not sustainable shut down. Those are the obvious ones I can think of but I wonder if that is going on at all positions. I wonder if defenses are doing something different adjusting for Morse's strengths.

Hoover · 12-11-2017, 03:46 PM

Fulton is going to get paid.

someone will rightfulling give him a decent long term deal. He's earned it.

NJChiefsFan · 12-11-2017, 03:55 PM

Since this is partially a LG discussion I don't think it's too off topic to bring up the Ehinger question. Is he still hurt or is he really behind Weitzman and Fulton on the LG depth chart?

12-11-2017, 12:31 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2824127	Is Fulton a better C than Morse? I think it's obvious that Fulton is a much better C than he is a G. But it seems that for 2 seasons in a row, our O-line does better with him at C. Marginally, maybe. When Morse came back this year our line went to shit. Not saying it's Morse's fault but Morse at C and Fulton at G doesn't seem to work well. Meanwhile, it seems whenever Morse goes down and Fulton goes to C we actually do pretty good.
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	Doc seems to be doing just fine at RG, so let's not mess with that. I'm beginning to think Fulton is a better C than Morse, but this isn't the time to be screwing around with the O-line. Re-sign Fulton and let Weitzman, Ehinger, and Devey fight it out in camp next year.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3029099	I'm not entirely convinced Morse shouldn't be shut down for the year but I'm not sure why, if that makes any sense. I agree that Fulton's been better at C than Morse this year. But Morse has never been worse at C in his entire career. It's not just the physical ability; he looks confused a lot. For a guy who came into the league with an innate sense of how to feel danger and provide help to linemates at the right time, that seems to have completely vanished. I'm not at all inclined to give up on Morse because as a rookie he was one of the best Cs in the league and I'm convinced he can easily get back there again. But something's just not been right this year. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	DJs post made me feel better about being confused about Morse. When you see the league adjust to an offense(wildcat) or a unique player(kap) there is early success then the defense is fine tuned and if not sustainable shut down. Those are the obvious ones I can think of but I wonder if that is going on at all positions. I wonder if defenses are doing something different adjusting for Morse's strengths. __________________ Steelers LB Bud Dupree admits Steelers underestimated Chiefs QB Pat Mahomes intelligence. "I feel like his intelligence was better than we thought."
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12-11-2017, 03:55 PM	#30
NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $5770423	Since this is partially a LG discussion I don't think it's too off topic to bring up the Ehinger question. Is he still hurt or is he really behind Weitzman and Fulton on the LG depth chart?
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