The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread

[mdchiefsfan]

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

There was a roar of applause in the theater I went to. But I felt that exact same thing, I couldn't even discuss what I enjoyed about the movie. I walked out with a headache and thought to myself, this is what it feels like to have your mind blown.

Yep.

As a friend of mine eloquently posted on FB last night, "Christopher Nolan just ****ed my mind's vagina so hard I'm going to be sore for weeks".

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yep.

As a friend of mine eloquently posted on FB last night, "Christopher Nolan just ****ed my mind's vagina so hard I'm going to be sore for weeks".

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

My experience was a bit different. Saw it in a 21+ theater with only 35 seats. There was literally no response from the audience at any point in the film. Hell, no one even moved once the credits started rolling.

My wife and I were the first to get up and walk out, and the looks of people trying to process what they just saw was priceless.

My wife asked me what I thought of it as we walked to the car, and I couldn't even respond. So many powerful, emotional scenes.

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Alfred's speech to Bruce before he resigns/reveal of Rachel's letter.
The first fight between Batman/Bane.
The climb from the pit.
Talia's reveal - though if you followed the comics you probably realized it before it happened.
When Blake throws his badge off the bridge.

And pretty much anything that happened the last 10 minutes.

Seeing it again tonight in 15/70 IMAX. Thinking it's going to be even better the 2nd time around.

I am not really sure the entire experience has sunk in on me yet. I am no where near being able to rank it in the trilogy because I'm not sure I have fully grasped what I watched last night.

[JD10367]

I think Nolan threw in the "You should use your full name... Robin" as just a bonus to fans. This film played fast-and-loose with the Batman canon. "Robin" is fully grown and a police officer, sharing only an orphan background with Wayne/Grayson (no silly carnival/acrobat crappola). The ending simply affirms, if this is the end of the road for Nolan/Bale, that the idea of Batman will live on (hence the rebuilt Batsignal telling Gordon that Wayne's alive, providing a beacon to scare criminals, AND summon the possible "new" Batman). Does JGL become Batman #2? Does he become Robin? Does he bypass Robin and immediately become Nightwing? Many possibilities.

As for an "Inception"-like ending, it's pretty clear that it's real. Wayne fixed the autopilot six months ago. The pearls are missing. The whole point of Clean Slate is the ability to erase your past (which both Catwoman and Batman wanted to do, and did do). I would like to think that, in the future of this version of the Batman word, Batman stays retired and enjoys living again while JGL takes up the job of protecting the city. I mean, he'd already been retired for 8 years, and his body clearly isn't holding up well despite from coming back from the back injury inflicted by Bane.

Also, for those unhappy with the speed of that recovery, note that for time-compression purposes they didn't actually say his back was broken, but that he ultimately had a protruding vertebrae (hence the reason he could rehab in 5 months).

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by JD10367

I think Nolan threw in the "You should use your full name... Robin" as just a bonus to fans. This film played fast-and-loose with the Batman canon. "Robin" is fully grown and a police officer, sharing only an orphan background with Wayne/Grayson (no silly carnival/acrobat crappola). The ending simply affirms, if this is the end of the road for Nolan/Bale, that the idea of Batman will live on (hence the rebuilt Batsignal telling Gordon that Wayne's alive, providing a beacon to scare criminals, AND summon the possible "new" Batman). Does JGL become Batman #2? Does he become Robin? Does he bypass Robin and immediately become Nightwing? Many possibilities.

As for an "Inception"-like ending, it's pretty clear that it's real. Wayne fixed the autopilot six months ago. The pearls are missing. The whole point of Clean Slate is the ability to erase your past (which both Catwoman and Batman wanted to do, and did do). I would like to think that, in the future of this version of the Batman word, Batman stays retired and enjoys living again while JGL takes up the job of protecting the city. I mean, he'd already been retired for 8 years, and his body clearly isn't holding up well despite from coming back from the back injury inflicted by Bane.

Also, for those unhappy with the speed of that recovery, note that for time-compression purposes they didn't actually say his back was broken, but that he ultimately had a protruding vertebrae (hence the reason he could rehab in 5 months).

Agreed. Also, I bet people aren't thrilled with how

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Batman was somehow able to ditch the Batwing and avoid the blast.

Though I think it's pretty obvious if you paid attention during the movie.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Agreed. Also, I bet people aren't thrilled with how

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Batman was somehow able to ditch the Batwing and avoid the blast.

Though I think it's pretty obvious if you paid attention during the movie.

I don't understand why they wouldn't be okay with him escaping the explosion, though.

Like you said, it was mentioned during the movie.

[Barret]

I dont understand 1 thing. If Robin is to take over at the end, where is he going to get the funding for "toys" and vehicles and all that stuff? Bruce Wayne sold off the assets in the Mansion to cover expenses that had occurred and then donated the Mansion to be a boys home.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I don't understand why they wouldn't be okay with him escaping the explosion, though.

Like you said, it was mentioned during the movie.

No, not the

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auto-pilot bug being fixed.

I'm guessing people are wondering

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how he ejected from the Batwing and still avoided the blast. Unless you were really paying attention, you'd wonder how he was in the cockpit over the ocean with less than 5 seconds to spare and still escaped the nuke blast.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, not the

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auto-pilot bug being fixed.

I'm guessing people are wondering

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how he ejected from the Batwing and still avoided the blast. Unless you were really paying attention, you'd wonder how he was in the cockpit over the ocean with less than 5 seconds to spare and still escaped the nuke blast.

I guess I missed it too then. Please enlighten me.

[OnTheWarpath15]

For Rams Fan, or anyone else wondering WTF I'm talking about in the previous post - my theory before I leave for a 7:00 showing:

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There were multiple Batwings, just like there were multiple Tumblers. If you remember the scene in which Fox says, "it (Batwing) also comes in black" the Batwing at Wayne Enterprises is grey.

I'll confirm tonight, but I remember the Batwing flying the nuke out to sea was black.

Remember while on the bridge, and Blake sees an explosion and says, "it's beginning"? I think that's when Batman makes the switch to an alternate Batwing (and there must be at least three if my theory is true, one destroyed in the blast, one that reveals the auto-pilot bug was patched and the one that I'm theorizing Batman used to get away.

I believe that the view of the Batwing carrying the nuke out to sea is from the viewpoint of Bruce, in the other Batwing.

Make sense? Or complete bullshit?

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

For Rams Fan, or anyone else wondering WTF I'm talking about in the previous post - my theory before I leave for a 7:00 showing:

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There were multiple Batwings, just like there were multiple Tumblers. If you remember the scene in which Fox says, "it (Batwing) also comes in black" the Batwing at Wayne Enterprises is grey.

I'll confirm tonight, but I remember the Batwing flying the nuke out to sea was black.

Remember while on the bridge, and Blake sees an explosion and says, "it's beginning"? I think that's when Batman makes the switch to an alternate Batwing (and there must be at least three if my theory is true, one destroyed in the blast, one that reveals the auto-pilot bug was patched and the one that I'm theorizing Batman used to get away.

I believe that the view of the Batwing carrying the nuke out to sea is from the viewpoint of Bruce, in the other Batwing.

Make sense? Or complete bullshit?

Possible, but improbable.

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Wasn't he down to just 2 minutes when he decided to carry it out to the bay in the first place? How could he have had time to switch? And if there were two Batwings in flight...Wouldn't Blake or someone else have noticed? Seems to me that the view of the Batwing before it exploded was Blake's.

Here's my question...

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Why are we using spoiler tags when the title suggests the thread is full of them?

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, not the

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auto-pilot bug being fixed.

I'm guessing people are wondering

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how he ejected from the Batwing and still avoided the blast. Unless you were really paying attention, you'd wonder how he was in the cockpit over the ocean with less than 5 seconds to spare and still escaped the nuke blast.

Ah, then yeah, I guess I missed that part.

I've already seen it twice. I don't think I caught that in either showing.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Anyone else find it interesting that Bane was in an outfit similar to that of the Red Hood?

Still wondering if anyone thought this?

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

For Rams Fan, or anyone else wondering WTF I'm talking about in the previous post - my theory before I leave for a 7:00 showing:

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There were multiple Batwings, just like there were multiple Tumblers. If you remember the scene in which Fox says, "it (Batwing) also comes in black" the Batwing at Wayne Enterprises is grey.

I'll confirm tonight, but I remember the Batwing flying the nuke out to sea was black.

Remember while on the bridge, and Blake sees an explosion and says, "it's beginning"? I think that's when Batman makes the switch to an alternate Batwing (and there must be at least three if my theory is true, one destroyed in the blast, one that reveals the auto-pilot bug was patched and the one that I'm theorizing Batman used to get away.

I believe that the view of the Batwing carrying the nuke out to sea is from the viewpoint of Bruce, in the other Batwing.

Make sense? Or complete bullshit?

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I think this is all being over thought. Why not just a disconnect button for the rope in the cockpit?

[JD10367]

The way the scene is edited, we can extrapolate "extra time" in there. They show Batman at the controls, then they show a long-distant shot,then they show the timer at 0:05. That doesn't necessarily mean he was at the controls at 0:07. Given the speed of the Batplane, it's possible he could've been at the edge of the blast radius.

Or maybe his buddy Superman swooped in and grabbed him, I dunno.