Chiefs Let's talk about the goddamn Bills. Again. For ****'s sake. - Page 6

Direckshun · 11-22-2015, 10:31 PM

Well the Bills are doing their thing once again of looking somewhat competent and making everybody think "are they for real this time?"

The answer is no. No they are not for real.

Look at their wins. All their wins have been against unimpressive dipshits. Two of their five wins have been against the ****ing Dolphins, an organization so haywire I'm pretty sure they just let Tannehill improvise instead of having a coach call plays. They had a legit win last week against the Jets, but the Jets have Fitzpatrick under center and the only reason a teammate hasn't broken his jaw yet is because his beard conceals it so well.

Last year, the Bills boasted a terrifying defense with an offense that was being held together by shoestrings with Kyle ****ing Orton under center.

This year, the Bills boast pretty much the same defense playing comprehensively worse under Rex "defensive genius" Ryan while sporting a sporatically explosive offense under The Hokey That Time Forgot: Tyron Taylor. Taylor is your typical quarterback from Virginia Tech: super athletic with roughly no idea how to play football in the NFL. His stats are surprisingly nice, which we'll get to in a moment, but watch him tomorrow on MNF against a real NFL coaching staff. He's going to evaporate once defenses figure out which palm he scribbled his playcalls onto.

That being said, as Chiefs fans during the Alex Smith era know, mediocre quarterbacks somehow confound NFL masterminds when they have even the slightest bit of athleticism. Expect the Chiefs to employ a spy in the form of Husain Abdullah because Taylor is legitimately lethal when he gets a seam to burst through.

As for his arm, the Bills have done a solid job surrounding him with good talent, and he's managed to complete -- get this -- 70% of his passes. 70%. I make my wife orgasm with less frequency, and I'm a goddamn stud. Well done, Tyrod. I literally have no idea how you do it.

Like I was saying moments ago, the Bills have done a really good job surrounding him with weapons. Sammy Watkins' stats aren't that great this year, as he's struggled waiting for Taylor to learn how to quarterback and EJ Manuel piss away every ounce of goodwill the city of Buffalo has mistakenly sheltered him with. Watkins still has great hands, though, and top-notch elite athleticism that, at one point, made him an elite pairing with Percy Harvin. Harvin has gone the way of Sanders Commings, however, and now the dependable Robert Woods mans the #2 slot. While Sammy Watkins is the tall, athletic dynamo that Sean Smith specializes in shutting down, Woods is the kind of shifty, speedy route-runner that has given Peters fits this year.

The Bills also have a Wes Welker type in Chris Hogan, and those types always seem to give the Chiefs fits on 3rd downs. After that, they have one-dimensional speedsters in Marquis Goodwin and Denarious Moore.

The most productive receiver the Bills have this year, however, is Charles Clay, who is going to have a very long afternoon in Arrowhead. Nobody limits TE production like the Chiefs, who boast not one but three TE shutdowns in Eric Berry, Ron Parker and Husain Abdullah. Clay is a big security blanket for Tyrod Taylor, and erasing him from the equation might screw with Taylor's wiring enough to force mistakes. Their passing game does not worry me, absent Bob Sutton forgetting to spy on Taylor's scrambling ability.

The Bills' run game is stout, though. LeSean McCoy is one of the league's best rushers when he's on, with the ability to seemingly teleport from one part of the line to another when the DL takes his hole away. Containing LeSean McCoy is a true team effort -- it requires hard work not just at the point of attack, but on the backside contain and at the second level, where Shady is one of the league's shiftiest. Do. Not. Sleep. On. McCoy. Their #2 RB is a huge truck of a running back in the gargantuan Karlos Williams, a guy who looks like Allen Bailey in a RB's body despite the fact that he's "only" 6'2", 230 lbs. He's averaging about 6 yards a clip. The Bills can pound the rock when they need to.

Which the Chiefs will need to be ready for. They've already got the league's #4 run defense, but this is a killer pair of RBs (along with a very good scrambler) and one of the few offensive lines in the league that's actually very good. Cordy Glenn at RT and Seantrel Henderson at RT are one of the league's best young bookends. Eric Wood is a sturdy center, and Richie Incognito will break down your DL with racist jokes. Louisville's John Miller is a powerful RG. Unlike last year's run game, which depended on a guy named ****ing Boobie, this year's Bills will plow you over if you don't watch your shit. Also, our passrush was totally negated last year by this line.

On the defensive side of the ball... I don't know, maybe you guys can help me out. I can't figure out why a team with almost the exact same personnel from last year's defense is underperforming so much. They're not bad... They're just not the world beaters that we're used to (I'm only using that phrase once this week).

Marcell Dareus is possibly the NFL's best defensive tackle. He's got Kyle Williams next to him, with Jerry Hughes and Mario Williams off the edge. Why is this not the best defensive line in football? Their sack numbers are very low, and other than Dareus, I don't see them on film and go "wow" like I did last year. This is still a shit ton of talent, though.

I really like Manny Lawson, but I struggle to be terribly worried about anybody else in their linebacking corps. Preston Brown is an nonathletic tackle-machine and Nigel Bradham sounds like a gay Bond villain. They better hope they work their ass off because this is the level of the defense Alex Smith spends all his time passing towards.

Smith definitely won't be chucking it to the WRs this week. Hell Maclin might as well take this week off because Stephen Gilmore is an excellent corner with a complete game. Not only is he physical and energetic, he's also really good in run support. Meanwhile, the Bills have the NFL's OTHER contestant for NFL Rookie of the Year in Ronald Darby, Florida State's slightly undersized CB who is just a pisspounding firecracker. The Bills also boast a good-not-great safety corps in Aaron Williams, Corey Graham, Bacarri Rambo, and Duke Williams. Going deep will be very challenging, and we're probably looking at another game of dumpoffs and checkdowns by Smith.

Honestly, given how good that secondary is, the game might simply be decided by the Chiefs figuring out what exactly they've got in Spencer Ware. Ware showed an elusiveness and a power that is every bit as eye-opening by a Kansas City backup RB we've seen since Charles first started getting work in 2009. Charcandrick West is a good role-player, but he was always meant to be a 3rd down change-of-pace guy. I'm calling it now: I think Spencer Ware is going to be the guy John Dorsey thought he was getting in Knile Davis.

One thing's for sure, this is the best test our resurgent offensive line has seen. Fisher and gang have to bring every ounce of edge they brought to Denver because this is a playoff game. We will likely be competing with the Bills for a playoff spot and every yard in this game will be extremely hard to earn.

I think it will be a very low-scoring affair, and unless the Chiefs sleep on Tyrod Taylor (which I don't think they will), they should have enough firepower on both sides of the ball to keep this one in hand.

Chiefs win, 16-13. But it may take us overtime to do so.

Amnorix · 11-23-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Well, with the way the scheduling is done (#1 vs #1, #2 vs #2 by the divisions) ... that will happen. This is why Manning/Brady have played so many games and why Brady/Luck continue that trend...

Yes. I remember a few years ago one team or the other wasn't in first place, and yet the annual meeting continued anyway because just by happenstance it was the AFC South vs. AFC East year.

Sort of amazing, but few remember now that the Colts WERE in the AFC East until realignment, which was, whatever, 2000 or something. If it wasn't for that, the annual Colts/Pats battles would've been AT LEAST twice a year, plus playoffs, potentially, and the playoff ramifications pretty epic. Better that they moved so they could dominate their own division, but would've been strange. Can you imagine Montana and Marino in the same division, much less conference?!

ILChief · 11-23-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

it was only a month long ban, not a permaban

What a shame. It's been some of the best football discussion in years during the last month

BWillie · 11-23-2015, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

We're going to get our ****ing asses kicked.

Why do you even follow football? You are so miserable. There is no reason anyone should expect this NOT to be a close game, let alone get our asses kicked. Why do you continue this rhetoric?

ILChief · 11-23-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Why do you even follow football? You are so miserable. There is no reason anyone should expect this NOT to be a close game, let alone get our asses kicked. Why do you continue this rhetoric?

Because he is a troll

O.city · 11-23-2015, 11:15 AM

Chiefs win 4 straight with clay banned, can we just keep the streak aljve?

ModSocks · 11-23-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Chiefs win 4 straight with clay banned, can we just keep the streak aljve?

This. Mods, please ban him again. Nothing personal, but this is the superstition in me talking. 4-0 without him. If the Chiefs lose to the Bills, it's the mods fault.

ModSocks · 11-23-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

The software.

Handle it Bob. Lets go 5 straight. Don't **** this up.

**Rain Man** · 11-23-2015, 11:35 AM

Chiefs Versus Bills:

Chiefs record from 1960-1964 - 3-6-1
Chiefs record from 1965-1969 - 6-3
Chiefs record from 1970-1974 - 1-1
Chiefs record from 1975-1979 - 1-2
Chiefs record from 1980-1984 - 1-3
Chiefs record from 1985-1989 - 1-1
Chiefs record from 1990-1994 - 2-3
Chiefs record from 1995-1999 - 1-1
Chiefs record from 2000-2004 - 2-1
Chiefs record from 2005-2009 - 0-3
Chiefs record from 2010-2014 - 3-2

The Chiefs have never won a full decade against the Bills, surprisingly. But they're ahead so far in the 2010s.

Current streak: Chiefs have won the last 2 in a row against Buffalo.

17-13 win in 2014 as Jamaal Charles and Alex Smith rushed for two fourth-quarter TDs to make a comeback win in Buffalo.

23-13 win in 2013 as the Chiefs outscored the Bills 20-3 in the second half in Buffalo. The second half featured two defensive TDs, a 100-yard interception return by Sean Smith and an 11-yard fumble recovery by Tamba Hali.

Saccopoo · 11-23-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

As for his arm, the Bills have done a solid job surrounding him with good talent, and he's managed to complete -- get this -- 70% of his passes. 70%. I make my wife orgasm with less frequency, and I'm a goddamn stud. Well done, Tyrod. I literally have no idea how you do it.

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ThaVirus · 11-23-2015, 11:51 AM

How can a man pretend to climax? You either empty your nuts or you don't.

Saccopoo · 11-23-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

I can't remember.

That concussion thing is catching!

It's a ****ing epidemic!

Saccopoo · 11-23-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

How can a man pretend to climax? You either empty your nuts or you don't.

I've faked it.

Got bored.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-23-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

How can a man pretend to climax? You either empty your nuts or you don't.

Well, technically you aren't emptying your nuts. Semen is not stored there, sperm are.

Come on man, didn't you see the film in school?

ThaVirus · 11-23-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Well, technically you aren't emptying your nuts. Semen is not stored there, sperm are.

Come on man, didn't you see the film in school?

Just a funny expression I got from CP (Donger, oddly enough) that I like to use.

I thought about using the expression "throw ropes" which I got from CP as well (Hamas can take credit for that one) but decided against it.

Saccopoo · 11-23-2015, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

How this defense is coming together. Is it bob Sutton changing some things? Or is it just guys getting healthier and getting Sean Smith back.

This is the more pertinent of questions in a line of questions that should be metamorphosized into answers.

Can Sean Smith mean that much to Bob Sutton and his play calling that we've completely reversed our defensive fortunes since his return?

Is Sean Smith actually that freaking good that he's allowed the defensive play calling to be that much more aggressive and effective?

You know, because, when the Chiefs were in that tailspin after the Denver debacle in Kansas City, Bob Sutton was criminal #1 in my eyes. Now he looks like a complete mastermind. WTF?

11-22-2015, 10:31 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4413447	Let's talk about the goddamn Bills. Again. For 's sake. Well the Bills are doing their thing once again of looking somewhat competent and making everybody think "are they for real this time?" The answer is no. No they are not for real. Look at their wins. All their wins have been against unimpressive dipshits. Two of their five wins have been against the ***ing Dolphins, an organization so haywire I'm pretty sure they just let Tannehill improvise instead of having a coach call plays. They had a legit win last week against the Jets, but the Jets have Fitzpatrick under center and the only reason a teammate hasn't broken his* jaw yet is because his beard conceals it so well. Last year, the Bills boasted a terrifying defense with an offense that was being held together by shoestrings with Kyle **ing Orton under center. This year, the Bills boast pretty much the same defense playing comprehensively worse under Rex "defensive genius" Ryan while sporting a sporatically explosive offense under The Hokey That Time Forgot: Tyron Taylor. Taylor is your typical quarterback from Virginia Tech: super athletic with roughly no idea how to play football in the NFL. His stats are surprisingly nice, which we'll get to in a moment, but watch him tomorrow on MNF against a real NFL coaching staff. He's going to evaporate once defenses figure out which palm he scribbled his playcalls onto. That being said, as Chiefs fans during the Alex Smith era know, mediocre quarterbacks somehow confound NFL masterminds when they have even the slightest bit of athleticism. Expect the Chiefs to employ a spy in the form of Husain Abdullah because Taylor is legitimately lethal when he gets a seam to burst through. As for his arm, the Bills have done a solid job surrounding him with good talent, and he's managed to complete -- get this -- 70% of his passes. 70%. I make my wife orgasm with less frequency, and I'm a goddamn stud. Well done, Tyrod. I literally have no idea how you do it. Like I was saying moments ago, the Bills have done a really good job surrounding him with weapons. Sammy Watkins' stats aren't that great this year, as he's struggled waiting for Taylor to learn how to quarterback and EJ Manuel piss away every ounce of goodwill the city of Buffalo has mistakenly sheltered him with. Watkins still has great hands, though, and top-notch elite athleticism that, at one point, made him an elite pairing with Percy Harvin. Harvin has gone the way of Sanders Commings, however, and now the dependable Robert Woods mans the #2 slot. While Sammy Watkins is the tall, athletic dynamo that Sean Smith specializes in shutting down, Woods is the kind of shifty, speedy route-runner that has given Peters fits this year. The Bills also have a Wes Welker type in Chris Hogan, and those types always seem to give the Chiefs fits on 3rd downs. After that, they have one-dimensional speedsters in Marquis Goodwin and Denarious Moore. The most productive receiver the Bills have this year, however, is Charles Clay, who is going to have a very long afternoon in Arrowhead. Nobody limits TE production like the Chiefs, who boast not one but three TE shutdowns in Eric Berry, Ron Parker and Husain Abdullah. Clay is a big security blanket for Tyrod Taylor, and erasing him from the equation might screw with Taylor's wiring enough to force mistakes. Their passing game does not worry me, absent Bob Sutton forgetting to spy on Taylor's scrambling ability. The Bills' run game is stout, though. LeSean McCoy is one of the league's best rushers when he's on, with the ability to seemingly teleport from one part of the line to another when the DL takes his hole away. Containing LeSean McCoy is a true team effort -- it requires hard work not just at the point of attack, but on the backside contain and at the second level, where Shady is one of the league's shiftiest. Do. Not. Sleep. On. McCoy. Their #2 RB is a huge truck of a running back in the gargantuan Karlos Williams, a guy who looks like Allen Bailey in a RB's body despite the fact that he's "only" 6'2", 230 lbs. He's averaging about 6 yards a clip. The Bills can pound the rock when they need to. Which the Chiefs will need to be ready for. They've already got the league's #4 run defense, but this is a killer pair of RBs (along with a very good scrambler) and one of the few offensive lines in the league that's actually very good. Cordy Glenn at RT and Seantrel Henderson at RT are one of the league's best young bookends. Eric Wood is a sturdy center, and Richie Incognito will break down your DL with racist jokes. Louisville's John Miller is a powerful RG. Unlike last year's run game, which depended on a guy named ing Boobie, this year's Bills will plow you over if you don't watch your shit. Also, our passrush was totally negated last year by this line. On the defensive side of the ball... I don't know, maybe you guys can help me out. I can't figure out why a team with almost the exact same personnel from last year's defense is underperforming so much. They're not bad... They're just not the world beaters that we're used to (I'm only using that phrase once this week). Marcell Dareus is possibly the NFL's best defensive tackle. He's got Kyle Williams next to him, with Jerry Hughes and Mario Williams off the edge. Why is this not the best defensive line in football? Their sack numbers are very low, and other than Dareus, I don't see them on film and go "wow" like I did last year. This is still a shit ton of talent, though. I really like Manny Lawson, but I struggle to be terribly worried about anybody else in their linebacking corps. Preston Brown is an nonathletic tackle-machine and Nigel Bradham sounds like a gay Bond villain. They better hope they work their ass off because this is the level of the defense Alex Smith spends all his time passing towards. Smith definitely won't be chucking it to the WRs this week. Hell Maclin might as well take this week off because Stephen Gilmore is an excellent corner with a complete game. Not only is he physical and energetic, he's also really good in run support. Meanwhile, the Bills have the NFL's OTHER contestant for NFL Rookie of the Year in Ronald Darby, Florida State's slightly undersized CB who is just a pisspounding firecracker. The Bills also boast a good-not-great safety corps in Aaron Williams, Corey Graham, Bacarri Rambo, and Duke Williams. Going deep will be very challenging, and we're probably looking at another game of dumpoffs and checkdowns by Smith. Honestly, given how good that secondary is, the game might simply be decided by the Chiefs figuring out what exactly they've got in Spencer Ware. Ware showed an elusiveness and a power that is every bit as eye-opening by a Kansas City backup RB we've seen since Charles first started getting work in 2009. Charcandrick West is a good role-player, but he was always meant to be a 3rd down change-of-pace guy. I'm calling it now: I think Spencer Ware is going to be the guy John Dorsey thought he was getting in Knile Davis. One thing's for sure, this is the best test our resurgent offensive line has seen. Fisher and gang have to bring every ounce of edge they brought to Denver because this is a playoff game**. We will likely be competing with the Bills for a playoff spot and every yard in this game will be extremely hard to earn. I think it will be a very low-scoring affair, and unless the Chiefs sleep on Tyrod Taylor (which I don't think they will), they should have enough firepower on both sides of the ball to keep this one in hand. Chiefs win, 16-13. But it may take us overtime to do so.
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11-23-2015, 11:35 AM	#83
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3358491 VARSITY	Chiefs Versus Bills: Chiefs record from 1960-1964 - 3-6-1 Chiefs record from 1965-1969 - 6-3 Chiefs record from 1970-1974 - 1-1 Chiefs record from 1975-1979 - 1-2 Chiefs record from 1980-1984 - 1-3 Chiefs record from 1985-1989 - 1-1 Chiefs record from 1990-1994 - 2-3 Chiefs record from 1995-1999 - 1-1 Chiefs record from 2000-2004 - 2-1 Chiefs record from 2005-2009 - 0-3 Chiefs record from 2010-2014 - 3-2 The Chiefs have never won a full decade against the Bills, surprisingly. But they're ahead so far in the 2010s. Current streak: Chiefs have won the last 2 in a row against Buffalo. 17-13 win in 2014 as Jamaal Charles and Alex Smith rushed for two fourth-quarter TDs to make a comeback win in Buffalo. 23-13 win in 2013 as the Chiefs outscored the Bills 20-3 in the second half in Buffalo. The second half featured two defensive TDs, a 100-yard interception return by Sean Smith and an 11-yard fumble recovery by Tamba Hali. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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