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Old 11-05-2017, 07:01 PM  
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:06 PM   #31
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Lordy, no. It should be clear to anyone that Assange is pro-Western values and culture.


Alrighty then.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:16 PM   #32
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Alrighty then.
I don't think anyone is surprised that the Democrats and their pet Neocons are interested in attacking the western culture warriors who are taking a wrecking ball to them and their preferred politicians.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:19 PM   #33
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You really don't think Assange is pro-Russian.
If Assange started releasing Russian related info he wouldn't be alive.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:22 PM   #34
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:49 AM   #35
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So there are 31 sealed indictments, and Julian Assange is demanding the DOJ release the Tarmac Transcripts, or he will.

...and he says Nancy Pelosi is a subject in them...


Wow. On top of the 31 sealed indictments in DC, there were 50 new sealed indictments filed in a neighboring court in VA this week.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Au0...h8IkQG4k0/view

Thats over 80 sealed indictments filed in one week.

This is not normal.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:12 AM   #36
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I always figured Assange as being non-partisan. What was that stuff that he posted on wikileaks that was negative to Trump and the Republican party? I always forget.
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:50 AM   #37
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I always figured Assange as being non-partisan. What was that stuff that he posted on wikileaks that was negative to Trump and the Republican party? I always forget.
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:01 AM   #38
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I always figured Assange as being non-partisan. What was that stuff that he posted on wikileaks that was negative to Trump and the Republican party? I always forget.
Is it our fault the Left supports serial criminals? I think not. So many skeletons so little time. Perhaps it's time to clean house, for instance you've known since their not so humble beginnings in politics the Clinton are as dirty as they come and they still keep popping up as the best you got. It's not so hard to understand if you reason it out.
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:20 AM   #39
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Assange needs to just spill the beans on everything.. this, Seth rich, etc..

The English language fails in trying to convey the contemptuousness, the utter disregard of truth or ethics, the transparent inhumanity in the bile that spills from this AG's mouth. Jeff Sessions should rescind his recusal and fire Mueller and then lock him up with Hillary and ALL her criminal friends.

However, I would not bet good money on it. To me, it seems like he isn't all there.
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:25 AM   #40
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I always figured Assange as being non-partisan. What was that stuff that he posted on wikileaks that was negative to Trump and the Republican party? I always forget.
It is not illegal to meet with the Russians.

Here's what is illegal: it is against the law to "solicit" anything of value from a foreign national in relation to a Federal, State or local election.

When the Trump campaign met with the Russians to get "dirt on Hillary," they were soliciting something of value. (Opposition research can cost millions of dollars.) According to the Russian woman they met with them, the campaign offered help getting US laws changed in exchange for the the dirt on Hillary. Those are all the elements you need for a crime to have been committed.

Once you have all those facts, then anything anybody associated with Trump does in relation with Russia is the subject of investigation.

Here is the law:

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"2 U.S.C 441e. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national."

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/p...
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:26 AM   #41
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Isn't "next week" now passed, or is it this week? Should be any time now then...
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:56 AM   #42
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Also how in the hell is there a transcript of the tarmac meeting? Someone was stupid enough to have it recorded and transcribed?
It is incredible just how profoundly stupid these people are. It's just such total contempt for American government and politics. How will we explain this to our descendants?

We allowed a hostile foreign power to dictate the circumstances of our national election. We let Vladimir Putin install a puppet con man into the Oval Office.

It is hard to imagine Pence isn't into this thing up to his eyeballs (or deeper) given the various roles he has played in the campaign and transition team. I could see both of them going down in the same barrage of indictments.
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:56 AM   #43
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It is not illegal to meet with the Russians.

Here's what is illegal: it is against the law to "solicit" anything of value from a foreign national in relation to a Federal, State or local election.

When the Trump campaign met with the Russians to get "dirt on Hillary," they were soliciting something of value. (Opposition research can cost millions of dollars.) According to the Russian woman they met with them, the campaign offered help getting US laws changed in exchange for the the dirt on Hillary. Those are all the elements you need for a crime to have been committed.

Once you have all those facts, then anything anybody associated with Trump does in relation with Russia is the subject of investigation.

Here is the law:

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"2 U.S.C 441e. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

(a) Prohibition

It shall be unlawful for

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national."

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/p...
Help me understand which part of that law relates to information?

And also help me understand which part of that law defines information as "something of value".

The law, as it reads to me, is related to donations and "other things of value" (such as land, stock, etc. etc.).
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:04 AM   #44
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Help me understand which part of that law relates to information?

And also help me understand which part of that law defines information as "something of value".

The law, as it reads to me, is related to donations and "other things of value" (such as land, stock, etc. etc.).
I think Trumps relationship with Russia is purely business oriented. Although I have read that he owes the Russian mob oodles of money. To the extent that money laundering is business, yes. And I guess it is business. Unfortunately for Trump, illegal business.

Hotels are close to ideal money-laundering businesses: you can put a lot of totally fictitious guest on the books to provide legal cover for huge amount of illegal income in the bookkeeper is the only person that even knows what's going on.

Of course the ideal money-laundering business is casinos, which not coincidentally have been a major part of Trump's portfolio. Casinos are even better for money-laundering than hotels because in addition to laundering your own money you can provide an A money-laundering service for clients where they can gamble the losses are the cost of laundering in the gains are legitimate income.

So essentially Trump's entire portfolio consists of various money laundering schemes and outright scams like his "University". if you going to make a POTUS out of a businessman, those are the most appropriate skills for the position.

If you did nothing wrong, no problem. The problem comes because what you did is questionable or plain illegal. Trump has played that game for years in business and got away with it.

While we have abandoned the notion of an objective democracy in favor of corporate-favored representation, that should not preclude the expectation that rank and file citizens must assert their collective authority to make sure that the "working model" is stronger than the motivations which work against it.
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Funny how people weren't calling out Assange when he was outing the Bush administration.
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