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Old 04-25-2017, 08:20 AM  
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Day 1 Prospect Sexual Assault

Allegedly the Cleveland Police are stalling on this case:


CLEVELAND, OH (WOIO) -
There have been numerous conversations at Cleveland 19 News about the report you are about to read. There's a lot at stake. It involves a young woman who said she was sexually assaulted, a young man who is about to start his NFL career, and a team who may be taking a huge risk drafting a player who's under investigation right here in Cleveland.

Police radio traffic coming from downtown Cleveland's Westin Hotel after 3 a.m. Sunday, April 9 sheds light on the moment officers arrived on scene: "Officers on scene, no call back -- 23-year-old female conscious and breathing, victim of a sexual assault."


The accused is a college football player who is expected to be taken in the first round of Thursday's NFL Draft.

We are not naming the player because we're waiting for the police report. And we want to be very clear he has not been officially charged with a crime at this point.

By phone, investigative producer Cassie Nist spoke to the player's attorney, Kevin Spellacy, who said he is representing the player in this matter, but said the accusations are "ludicrous and ridiculous."

"In my opinion this young lady is an opportunist and it's actually despicable," said Spellacy.

The player's attorney says it all started at the Barley House on West 6th Street, when a group left there to go to the Westin for a hotel room party. He said his client was never alone with the alleged victim, and he has three witnesses who said he did nothing wrong. When police arrived at the Westin, the player had already left. The attorney said he is willing to bring his client in to be interviewed by police, but not right away. He has made arrangements for the interview to be held right after the NFL Draft.

There is a lot at stake. It's just days before the draft and one of the top picks has his name on paperwork somewhere on a Cleveland detective's desk. We'd like to see that paperwork. Normally we can. But for some reason we -- the media -- are being held up.
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Old 04-25-2017, 05:13 PM   #46
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Sounds fishy as ****.
So she meets a guy in a hotel elevator at 3 in the morning, goes to his hotel room, agrees to watching another couple have sex and doesn't expect to get ****ed?
Seriously?
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Old 04-25-2017, 05:27 PM   #47
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So she meets a guy in a hotel elevator at 3 in the morning, goes to his hotel room, agrees to watching another couple have sex and doesn't expect to get ****ed?
Seriously?
If true, definitely a bad situation to put yourself in. However, this sounds like the "she was asking for it" defense. Still no bueno.
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:01 PM   #48
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:03 PM   #49
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:04 PM   #50
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:05 PM   #51
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:28 PM   #52
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:01 PM   #53
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I was noticing that myself. His claim and her claim appear to have no overlap at all. This is going to be a pretty cut and dried conclusion.
So now Conley's lawyer is admitting that consensual sex occurred (making the previous witness statements also bullshit).

****ing Raiders, man. I still can't believe they used a 1st rounder on this guy.
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So now Conley's lawyer is admitting that consensual sex occurred (making the previous witness statements also bullshit).

****ing Raiders, man. I still can't believe they used a 1st rounder on this guy.
Hopefully it bites them in the ass

Also, where is Conley going to play with Smith and Amerson on the outside with big contracts? Nickel?
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:06 PM   #55
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He can't be punished for it by the NFL. Only way he's missing any game time is prison if it comes to that.
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:11 PM   #56
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He can't be punished for it by the NFL. Only way he's missing any game time is prison if it comes to that.
He and his boys came out and gave statements that are CLEARLY false. They immediately said that absolutely nothing happened. She was just some bitter floozy that got kicked out of the room after nothing went down.

Oh wait...there's semen in there....shit.

Some master ****ing criminals right here. "Guys, just tell them that nothing happened even though she went and had a rape swab done. Maybe you're just firing blanks and nothing will turn up..."

If there are ANY signs of trauma at all, he should be indicted. His first step out of the chute was to lie his ass off. If it turns out 'he said, she said' and the jury doesn't convict because they don't see 'beyond a reasonable doubt' here, so be it. But if there's anything on that rape kit that comes back untoward, it should damn sure go to a jury to make that determination.

Whether the NFL can do anything about it or not, taking a guy that early who, IMO, was a mid-2nd rounder anyway and then having said rookie IMMEDIATELY indicted for rape would be a catastrophic decision for Oakland.

Which is to say it's a very Oakland thing to have done.
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:17 PM   #57
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He and his boys came out and gave statements that are CLEARLY false. They immediately said that absolutely nothing happened. She was just some bitter floozy that got kicked out of the room after nothing went down.

Oh wait...there's semen in there....shit.

Some master ****ing criminals right here. "Guys, just tell them that nothing happened even though she went and had a rape swab done. Maybe you're just firing blanks and nothing will turn up..."

If there are ANY signs of trauma at all, he should be indicted. His first step out of the chute was to lie his ass off. If it turns out 'he said, she said' and the jury doesn't convict because they don't see 'beyond a reasonable doubt' here, so be it. But if there's anything on that rape kit that comes back untoward, it should damn sure go to a jury to make that determination.

Whether the NFL can do anything about it or not, taking a guy that early who, IMO, was a mid-2nd rounder anyway and then having said rookie IMMEDIATELY indicted for rape would be a catastrophic decision for Oakland.

Which is to say it's a very Oakland thing to have done.
I can't remember how I heard it described yesterday but the lawyer said something like it was a sexual event. Made it sound like it was part of the combine or his pro day. I can hear Mike Mayock

"Conley severely under performed in the sexual event because he's a tight hipped tweener. That's going to hurt his draft stock Rich"
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Last I saw his lawyer was saying they had consensual interaction but it wasn't sex?
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Last I saw his lawyer was saying they had consensual interaction but it wasn't sex?
That's what I saw.
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:23 PM   #60
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Last I saw his lawyer was saying they had consensual interaction but it wasn't sex?
That's still a change from where they started when she just got thrown out and was pissed off about it.

Moreover, it STILL doesn't get around the rape kit.

If there's nothing in that rape kit, they never even start walking this back. But it turned up something, IMO and that's why they're trying to slowly ease this back towards a consensual encounter.

What the hell puts semen in a rape kit that ISN'T sex. I don't care what kind of hose the guy is packing, overspray from a handy isn't going to go all magic bullet and just end up falling in there.
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