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Old 05-26-2018, 11:41 PM  
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The Trump Administration and Human Trafficking

The Trump administration has deliberately set a policy to separate parents from their children at the borders in order to discourage families from trying to enter the USA. They've done a great job of terrorizing these families, but they haven't done as good a job of keeping track of the children they take away from their parents. They've lost track of nearly 1,500 children after forcibly removing those children from their parents.

Trump does a lot of shameful things. This may be the worst of all.

Taco John started multiple threads about "Pizzagate" on this site, and he repeated over and over a bogus claim that Hillary Clinton was involved in child sex trafficking.

Now we see who the REAL traffickers are. It's the Trump administration.

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The Arizona Republic writer E.J. Montini has a story that is so horrible that it can’t be true … can it? Yes, it’s true.

The Trump administration recently announced a new, get-tough policy that will separate parents from their children if the family is caught crossing the border illegally.

It was a big news story. So big it overshadowed the fact that the federal government has lost – yes, lost – 1,475 migrant children in its custody.
Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen told Congress that within 48 hours of being taken into custody the children are transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services, which finds places for them to stay.

The Office of Refugee Resettlement reported at the end of 2017 that of the 7,000-plus children placed with sponsored individuals, the agency did not know where 1,475 of them were.

Last month, PBS’s Frontline reported that some of these children were released by the feds into the hands of human traffickers.

In 2014, at least 10 trafficking victims, including eight minors, were discovered during a raid by federal and local law enforcement in Portman’s home state of Ohio. As FRONTLINE examined in the recent documentary Trafficked in America, HHS had released several minors to the traffickers. The committee said the case was due to policies and procedures that were “inadequate to protect the children in the agency’s care.”

After unaccompanied minors arrive in the United States, often to reunite with family members or to flee violence or poverty in their home countries, they are typically transferred from border patrol or customs officers to the custody of HHS, which often reunites the minors with a relative or another sponsor. The department is supposed to place check-in phone calls 30 days after a minor’s placement, but during the hearing, Wagner acknowledged gaps in that system.

In an interview with FRONTLINE for Trafficked in America, Portman said that HHS cannot ignore its responsibility for unaccompanied minors.

“We’ve got these kids,” he said. “They’re here. They’re living on our soil. And for us to just, you know, assume someone else is going to take care of them and throw them to the wolves, which is what HHS was doing, is flat-out wrong. I don’t care what you think about immigration policy, it’s wrong.”

Nearly 1,500 kids, disappeared. I agree with Sen. Portman: no matter what you think of US immigration policy, this is horrifying.

Why is this not a massive scandal? We’re talking children here. I suppose that’s one way to guarantee that people don’t try to cross the border illegally with their children: tell them that the US government will take their kids away, and oops, might even lose them, or even hand them off to human traffickers.

We can’t stand for this, America.
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Old 05-27-2018, 06:51 PM   #46
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Fair enough. Rest assured though, outside of the populist/right wing and "deep state" conspiracy theorists....Trump is not a very likeable person either. Actually, he's pretty easy to find despicable. Just sayin'.
Actually people who work with him say he's quite different than his public persona. Even Putin noticed that.

Then you have the phony scripted personalities who are all focused-group on what they dare say—then stab others in the back. Hillary was actually mean and vengeful and quite nasty to people—even physically violent to Bill. Remember that shiner he got? Who do you think gave it to him? But she was pretty scripted to look better than Trump in temperment. Bill was charming but had a foul temper and cussed a lot. Kasich is downright nasty when he's not in the limelight. Jefferson was thin-skinned. None of them are saints.

And "deep state" is neither a theory nor a conspiracy—it's simply the permanent largely bureaucratic state that is always there, who don't like change and drag their heels about it. Many are holdovers from Bush/Obama years.

Meanwhile, you've fallen for the biggest conspiracy going on today—the Russian Collusion delusion. Amirite in saying, it's only the conspiracy you believe in that are valid?
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:42 PM   #47
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Old 05-27-2018, 08:05 PM   #48
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Old 05-27-2018, 08:14 PM   #49
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Indeed. If I didn’t use it for Looniguana I’m not using it for anyone.

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Old 05-27-2018, 10:54 PM   #50
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LOL, I don't need to use the Ignore function to ignore posts made by people whose posts are repetitive and boring. It just makes it quicker to skip past them.
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Old 05-27-2018, 11:03 PM   #51
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In the article you quoted in post 21, it says Jeff Sessions seemed to say that they're doing this as required by law:

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Taking your children with you and applying for legal asylum for your family isn't "smuggling" your children into the country. I suspect you already know this, so I'm not sure why you made me spell it out.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:55 AM   #52
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:41 AM   #53
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Taking your children with you and applying for legal asylum for your family isn't "smuggling" your children into the country. I suspect you already know this, so I'm not sure why you made me spell it out.
I think this thread is a case of the blind leading the blind. I'd be the first to admit that I don't know all the details, legal requirements, policy changes, etc. that are involved here, but it's clear to me that you don't either. Everything I know about this comes from what you've posted colored by the skepticism I have for everything anti-Trump that you post these days.

That .pdf you posted indicates that the Trump administration is taking significant steps to prevent the kinds of bad outcomes that you're accusing them of generating. That alone gives me reason to ignore (or at least discount until proven otherwise) your Henny Penny act.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:38 AM   #54
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Of course it's a fact. Your denial of a fact doesn't make the fact go away.

I hate to break this to you Pat, but you are the one who is confused. You've become so much a part of Trump's base that you feel compelled to defend and support all of his policies, even terrible policies like this one.

If Trump were proud of this policy, he wouldn't now be trying to blame it on the Democrats with misleading Tweets like this one:







Trump is not enforcing a pre-existing law. There is no law that says children must be separated from their parents. This is an attempt to intimidate families so that they'll be afraid to show up at the border and apply for legal asylum. Jeff Sessions said as much when he announced the policy. See post #21.
I thought patty hit a new low defending old men lusting after underage girls, but this completely takes the cake.

1,500 kids in danger and he is pulling his usual dishonest bs.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:57 AM   #55
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I think Lex and Prison Bitch exchanged contact info and spent too much time together dropping disco biscuits and binge watching CNN.
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:03 AM   #57
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Hard to know what actually happens to people these days.

This entire Trump thing has people nuts and on edge. I know people who have been best friends forever who no longer speak because one or the other said a neg or positive thing that pissed the other off.

Rational people have become so insane they twitter and FB all day reposting any weird shit that shows up in any media.

The fringes have always been into the loon shit. It was that way when Perot was beating around, sort of resurfaced with the Paulies, but now its become mainstream.
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Wait, there are people that really use ignore? What a bunch of hemorrhaging vagina’s. Jesus.
Perspective differences lead to opinion differences. I consider it insanity to not use something that allows you to avoid the postings of the likes of Loneiguana.
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Perspective differences lead to opinion differences. I consider it insanity to not use something that allows you to avoid the postings of the likes of Loneiguana.
Ignore is practically useless here, especially if you're trying to ignore some inflammatory twat who gets quoted by others all the time. Too bad we don't have a block function like Facebook has - they don't see you, and you don't see them, no matter what.
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