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Old 02-27-2016, 04:40 PM  
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Slimmed-down Chiefs safety Eric Berry starred in 2015, setting up next payday Read m
Terez A. Paylor ‏@TerezPaylor 5m5 minutes ago Indianapolis, IN

Slimmed-down #Chiefs safety Eric Berry starred in 2015, setting up next payday: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...#storylink=cpy …


So, kind of puts to rest the box safety only talk and whether he's worth it, if you follow Louis Riddick.
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Old 02-28-2016, 12:30 AM   #91
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You're kidding right?

EB29 has been nothing short of amazing considering his role in this defense
Amazing is Ed Reed or pick your favorite here.

Eric Berry is right there with the top half of NFL safeties, but amazing isn't the word I've got in mind.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:13 AM   #92
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So there are quite a few on here saying Berry isn't the top safety in the NFL so he doesn't deserve to make more than Thomas. Fair enough. However, salary caps have changed as we all know, so Berry and his agent aren't going to look at that as the benchmark. It's going to be the highest safety contract in the league, not just because the cap has gone up, but also because he deserves it.

Like it or not, he is the FACE of the Chiefs, and if you don't believe that ask any of your buddies that live somewhere outside of Missouri and ask them who's the first player they think of when they think of the Chiefs. He has become an essential leader fot this team, a stud of football player, and if we want to continue the momentum brought onto this team this year, he needs to stay. If he isn't an all-pro for us he will be somewhere else. That's how good he is. He can play either deep FS like Earl or an in the box banger like Chancellor. Nobody else brings that to the table, keep him here.
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:36 AM   #93
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:58 AM   #94
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I dint think there's any way he gets 12 million anywhere. That's what, 2 million higher than the highest paid safety
Yea the silly talk around here is out of control.

Said it before and will say it again, he will stay in KC on a big but fair contract.

Hell they paid him his regular salary while he was on the NFIL which they didn't have to do and its not like the guy needed the money.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:01 AM   #95
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I've been an advocate supporter of Berry coming back, I figured something similar to his current (large) contract. But 12 million? If that's the case I'd just franchise tag him for a year then let him walk.
Where does this number keep coming from? Has it been said somewhere or is it an assumption since it would be more than Thomas?

And really its not about the avg per year $ as much as it is the guaranteed $ anymore.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:42 AM   #96
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Our inside linebackers as a unit are god awful. Poe and Howard have saved us from being bottom of the barrel in run defense
No they aren't.

Johnson is one of the very best in the league. The rest suck, but "as a unit are god awful" is incorrect.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:55 AM   #97
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Amazing is Ed Reed or pick your favorite here.

Eric Berry is right there with the top half of NFL safeties, but amazing isn't the word I've got in mind.
Yep, he was supposed be the next Ed Reed and he has not even come close.
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You're kidding right?

EB29 has been nothing short of amazing considering his role in this defense
Sutton primarily plays a two zone safety look. They are relatively interchangeable. Berry has fit in well in this specific scheme, but he still isn't the best when it comes to man coverage. He's was also exposed at the back end of the zone in pass coverage. He was routinely late in rotation this past season. He excels in run support, average at best in pass coverage.

I understand why he wants to get paid. I also understand that he's not worth "the highest paid safety in the league."

You can draft guys and fit them into a two zone safety scheme relatively effectively.

Do you know where the Chiefs were ranked defensively in 2014? The year that Berry sat out? (With particular emphasis on passing defense?)
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Where does this number keep coming from? Has it been said somewhere or is it an assumption since it would be more than Thomas?

And really its not about the avg per year $ as much as it is the guaranteed $ anymore.
It was implied on the first reply in the thread.

If he wants to be paid as the top safety it could be anywhere from $10,000,001 and up. People just assume 11 or 12. Either way, same thing.
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No they aren't.

Johnson is one of the very best in the league. The rest suck, but "as a unit are god awful" is incorrect.
I think DJ improved in htting the gaps quicker as the season progresses but he's a liability in pass coverage. A versatile ILB like Irvin was used in pass coverage 30% of downs and was very good at it. Being a pass heavy league now we need to address the ILB sooner rather than later. Mauga is depth, I hope March is an answer. But we need to draft OLB/ILb or get someone in FA
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I think DJ improved in htting the gaps quicker as the season progresses but he's a liability in pass coverage. A versatile ILB like Irvin was used in pass coverage 30% of downs and was very good at it. Being a pass heavy league now we need to address the ILB sooner rather than later. Mauga is depth, I hope March is an answer. But we need to draft OLB/ILb or get someone in FA
I think that's the first I've ever heard anyone say that.
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We are better off spending that money on a versatile linebacker like Irvin and the leftover to put towards Howard.

Berry is money driven and complicating things going into the draft. If we tag him and he throws a fit I wonder what people's opinion on here will be...
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I think that's the first I've ever heard anyone say that.
BlackBoob is ****ing insane - Berry is one of the few DBs who can line up ANYWHERE in the backfield.
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For the people not catching up here: $11m is not that bad for a safety nowadays. With the cap rise, $11m is basically equivalent to $9m 2 years ago.
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