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NYT: Louis C.K. Crossed a Line Into Sexual Misconduct, 5 Women Say

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...Now, after years of unsubstantiated rumors about Louis C.K. masturbating in front of associates, women are coming forward to describe what they experienced. Even amid the current burst of sexual misconduct accusations against powerful men, the stories about Louis C.K. stand out because he has so few equals in comedy. In the years since the incidents the women describe, he has sold out Madison Square Garden eight times, created an Emmy-winning TV series, and accumulated the clout of a tastemaker and auteur, with the help of a manager who represents some of the biggest names in comedy. And Louis C.K. built a reputation as the unlikely conscience of the comedy scene, by making audiences laugh about hypocrisy — especially male hypocrisy....
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/a...isconduct.html

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Old 11-10-2017, 06:32 PM   #106
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I think it's a mental defect.

He's going to need years of therapy to figure this out.
This is the kind of thing that get's your figured out real quick I'd think.

What a abrupt ending to a genius career.
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Old 11-10-2017, 06:39 PM   #107
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It was announced that everyone is breaking ties with him, including his publicist:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...dal/851769001/

Louis C.K. scandal: FX, Netflix, publicist cut ties after admission of sexual misconduct

FX Networks announced late Friday afternoon that it was cutting ties with comedian Louis C.K. after he admitted to sexual misconduct with five women, as revealed by The New York Times.

"Today, FX Networks and FX Productions are ending our association with Louis C.K," representative Jesse Hiestand confirmed to USA TODAY in a statement. "We are canceling the overall deal between FX Productions and his production company, Pig Newton. He will no longer serve as executive producer or receive compensation on any of the four shows we were producing with him: Better Things, Baskets, One Mississippi and The Cops."

The statement continued, "Louis has now confirmed the truth of the reports relating to the five women victimized by his misconduct, which we were unaware of previously. As far as we know, his behavior over the past 8 years on all five series he has produced for FX Networks and/or FX Productions has been professional. However, now is not the time for him to make television shows. Now is the time for him to honestly address the women who have come forth to speak about their painful experiences, a process which he began today with his public statement.

Their decision came hours after comedian's publicist, Lewis Kay, released C.K.'s written remarks. (Hours later, Kay tweeted that he was no longer representing C.K.)

Early Friday morning, I Love You, Daddy distributor Orchard Films announced that the film company would be scrapping C.K.'s new movie, which was slated to open in limited release on Nov. 17. “The Orchard will not be moving forward with the release of I Love You, Daddy," the statement reads. The shelving follows the cancellation of the movie's New York premiere, originally scheduled for Tuesday.

Next, streaming service Netflix announced it would not be moving forward with its second planned C.K. standup special, the follow-up to the comedian's 2017 released in April. “The allegations made by several women in the New York Times about Louis C.K.’s behavior are disturbing," Netflix told USA TODAY in a statement provided by spokesperson Karen Barragan. "Louis' unprofessional and inappropriate behavior with female colleagues has led us to decide not to produce a second stand up special, as had been planned.”
Ridiculous. Now because of the current knee jerk climate among certain segments we can't watch CK. One of the greatest comics of our time censored because he likes to spank it before a live studio audience.
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Old 11-10-2017, 06:42 PM   #108
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Ridiculous. Now because of the current knee jerk climate among certain segments we can't watch CK. One of the greatest comics of our time censored because he likes to spank it before a live studio audience.
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:32 AM   #109
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Don't get me wrong, it's some weird shit that I don't agree with... I just can't see how it is misconduct.
I dunno man. If it's universally socially unacceptable, that's misconduct IMO.
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:17 PM   #110
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I dunno man. If it's universally socially unacceptable, that's misconduct IMO.
To me it's a question of consent. If the women did not consent to this, then it's misconduct. The only grey area here is consent. The guy himself said in his statement that he used his celebrity to get away with doing something that he shouldn't have done. Obviously, he was there when it happened. He'd know if the women actually consented to it or not. From what he has said they did not.
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:19 PM   #111
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Honestly, I had never heard of this guy before this story came out. Is he supposed to be some famous comedian?
He has consistently been the best comedian of the last 10 years or so.
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He has consistently been the best comedian of the last 10 years or so.
And you know he'd have had some great material about this whole thing if the torch and pitch fork crew didn't get him censored.
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And you know he'd have had some great material about this whole thing if the torch and pitch fork crew didn't get him censored.
Dude, there's some pretty nasty shit surrounding Louie. I've linked to an article and posted some of the more seedy interactions.

The dude's ****ed up.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/...ors_picks=true

"When he actually started jerking off in front of them, the ladies decided that wasn't their bag and made for the exit. But the comedian stood in front of the door, blocking their way with his body, until he was done."

"And so the tipster relayed to Gawker, while sparing identifying details, that he had a couple of friends who had recounted uncomfortable incidents involving C.K. to him. One of those, he said, included a time in 2014 when “C.K. had come up to [his friend] at a comedy club, grabbed her by the back of the neck, leaned into her ear, and said ‘I’m going to **** you.’”

At this point, the allegations became loud enough that when comedian Jen Kirkman described a horrible encounter she had with “a very famous comic [who] is probably Cosby level at this point” on her podcast I Seem Fun, many assumed she was talking about CK. Said Kirkman:

"He is lauded as a genius. He is basically a French filmmaker at this point. You know, new material every year. He’s a known perv. And there’s a lockdown on talking about him. His guy friends are standing by him, and you cannot say a bad thing about him. And I’ve been told by people, “Well, then say it then. Say it if it’s true.” If I say it, my career is over. My manager and my agent have told me that. They didn’t threaten it. They just said to me “You know what, Jen, it’s not worth it because you’ll be torn apart. Look at the Cosby women.” And this guy didn’t rape me, but he made a certain difficult decision to go on tour with him really hard. Because I knew if I did, I’d be getting more of the same weird treatment I’d been getting from him. And it was really ****ed up, and this person was married. So it was not good, and so I hold a lot of resentment."


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Dude, there's some pretty nasty shit surrounding Louie. I've linked to an article and posted some of the more seedy interactions.

The dude's ****ed up.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/...ors_picks=true

"When he actually started jerking off in front of them, the ladies decided that wasn't their bag and made for the exit. But the comedian stood in front of the door, blocking their way with his body, until he was done."

"And so the tipster relayed to Gawker, while sparing identifying details, that he had a couple of friends who had recounted uncomfortable incidents involving C.K. to him. One of those, he said, included a time in 2014 when “C.K. had come up to [his friend] at a comedy club, grabbed her by the back of the neck, leaned into her ear, and said ‘I’m going to **** you.’”

At this point, the allegations became loud enough that when comedian Jen Kirkman described a horrible encounter she had with “a very famous comic [who] is probably Cosby level at this point” on her podcast I Seem Fun, many assumed she was talking about CK. Said Kirkman:

"He is lauded as a genius. He is basically a French filmmaker at this point. You know, new material every year. He’s a known perv. And there’s a lockdown on talking about him. His guy friends are standing by him, and you cannot say a bad thing about him. And I’ve been told by people, “Well, then say it then. Say it if it’s true.” If I say it, my career is over. My manager and my agent have told me that. They didn’t threaten it. They just said to me “You know what, Jen, it’s not worth it because you’ll be torn apart. Look at the Cosby women.” And this guy didn’t rape me, but he made a certain difficult decision to go on tour with him really hard. Because I knew if I did, I’d be getting more of the same weird treatment I’d been getting from him. And it was really ****ed up, and this person was married. So it was not good, and so I hold a lot of resentment."


If he held those ladies there against their will that's a whole 'nother ballgame. That goes from freaky to criminal if true. Did one of the women involved say that directly?

The second hand account of CK "grabbing" someone's neck and saying those words is open to so many interpretations, from innocent horse play to hard core harassment. Until we hear it first hand from the woman in question we don't know.
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If he held those ladies there against their will that's a whole 'nother ballgame. That goes from freaky to criminal if true. Did one of the women involved say that directly?

The second hand account of CK "grabbing" someone's neck and saying those words is open to so many interpretations, from innocent horse play to hard core harassment. Until we hear it first hand from the woman in question we don't know.
He had an episode in Louie that was pretty, pretty, pretty close to this scenario. In the end, they end up a couple for a bit (she later basically violates him in the ass)

It was a bit disturbing at the time, now it's "holy shit, that's art imitating life"
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Its such a tough behavior to understand, and Weinstein was apparently famous for it as well... I would be too embarrassed to even think about making some woman who clearly wasnt interested watch me whack it, probably couldnt even get hard

Guess it just some kind of power trip thing
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If he held those ladies there against their will that's a whole 'nother ballgame. That goes from freaky to criminal if true. Did one of the women involved say that directly?
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The second hand account of CK "grabbing" someone's neck and saying those words is open to so many interpretations, from innocent horse play to hard core harassment. Until we hear it first hand from the woman in question we don't know.
I agree but it seems as if this type of behavior had been going on (and known about) for more than a decade, so it's holds more weight than if this had been like a one time thing.

That said, it's sad. But it just goes to show how none of us really know these people, despite the fact that we think we do through their art.
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Its such a tough behavior to understand, and Weinstein was apparently famous for it as well... I would be too embarrassed to even think about making some woman who clearly wasnt interested watch me whack it, probably couldnt even get hard

Guess it just some kind of power trip thing

I can't imagine ever getting to the place where there's a lull in the conversation, and suddenly I think it's a good idea to break out "hey, you want to watch me masturbate?"
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I can't imagine ever getting to the place where there's a lull in the conversation, and suddenly I think it's a good idea to break out "hey, you want to watch me masturbate?"
Right?
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