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Old 01-13-2014, 01:31 PM  
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The Curse of Oak Island

Has anyone else started watching this show? I am a sucker for this kind of thing and so far it has been very interesting. You can watch the first two episodes in the link below. Since this was filmed over the summer, if any of you have figured out what happens please use spoilers for anything that hasn't aired yet.

http://www.history.com/shows/the-curse-of-oak-island

For those who aren't familiar, very briefly, it is about an island on the eastern shore of Canada that is rumored to have buried treasure from possibly the Knights Templar dating back to the 1300s. In 1795 an apparent secret hiding space was discovered in which levels of wooden planks were buried every 10 feet. Digging down around a hundred feet, they found some gold link chain and a few other things. Eventually they dug to a point that causes the hold to be flooded by sea water as if it was some sort of boobie trap, which is believed to come from some type of tube that is out in the ocean.

Another person in the 1970s dug alongside the original hole but also got his hole flooded by sea water. These guys now who are on the show purchased most of the island and are trying to solve the mystery with help from the guys who dug their own hole in the 1970s. The hole curse aspect is just kind of meh and I don't really pay attention to it, but I am sure the producers just like the added element it presents. The mystery and adventure is really interesting. It is nice to see a show like this that is actually producing some results so far.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:49 PM   #31
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How do you find the inlets for the water though? This isn't a bucket you can hold up to find the hole.
I think what you're asking is how do you pinpoint the openings, if you have divers offshore they should be able to get a pretty good fix on where its coming in based on where the dye is strongest.

I think thats what you're asking...
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My bad, I seen your post, wasnt trying to steal it as my own idea.
It's cool...I was just agreeing with you.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:55 PM   #33
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I think what you're asking is how do you pinpoint the openings, if you have divers offshore they should be able to get a pretty good fix on where its coming in based on where the dye is strongest.

I think thats what you're asking...
You wouldn't be able to tell. You would have to use a large amount of dye to get enough saturation to be visible when diluted amongst the hundreds of thousands of gallons of water. The diver's would be blinded, and the whole cove flooded with dye. And there would be a time delay in when the dye would travel so it's not like you can say exactly where the dye was at when it becomes visible in the shaft or across the island.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:57 PM   #34
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:05 PM   #35
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Thats interesting, it denies some of what the show says but confirms others, like the coconut fibers and the fact that there is a layer of freshwater over the heavier seawater.

What I didnt care for, was the statement that "Triton" restricted access to certain areas... are they trying to help get to the bottom of this or what, why would you restrict some areas?
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:18 PM   #37
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I have been watching this and been reading about this for over 20 years.
There seems to be a lot of people who've been following this for decades, I'm always looking into weird mysteries and the first time I ever heard of it was maybe two weeks ago when an ad for it came on.
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:21 PM   #38
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Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
I think it'd be very hard to do. To see the whole shore of water turn red, yes, but to see a particular spot? I'd think you'd need to be below water to see it, and as murky as the water is, I don't think you'd be able to catch it before you were immersed in it. Not without assistance anyway.

Maybe a infrared camera could detect something quickly, or backlight with some sort of solvent, or hot water and a thermal camera.

Even then, it'd be hard to stop water from getting in. I guess you could pump hydraulic cement in. But with five box drains, just cut off the main shaft. Which is likely just a trench they dug and filled with gravel covered with coconut fiber and buried.
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Yeah, I mean c'mon... something is weird about the whole damn thing, theres gotta be something down there, something crazy important.
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Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
I'm not sure why this is so nuts.

Is it more nuts than free diving? Or scuba diving in deep ocean water? What is so nuts about it?

What he did, with that gear that was likely primitive THEN, sure, a bit nuts, but with modern means?
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You wouldn't be able to tell. You would have to use a large amount of dye to get enough saturation to be visible when diluted amongst the hundreds of thousands of gallons of water. The diver's would be blinded, and the whole cove flooded with dye. And there would be a time delay in when the dye would travel so it's not like you can say exactly where the dye was at when it becomes visible in the shaft or across the island.
This.
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I think it'd be very hard to do. To see the whole shore of water turn red, yes, but to see a particular spot? I'd think you'd need to be below water to see it, and as murky as the water is, I don't think you'd be able to catch it before you were immersed in it. Not without assistance anyway.

Maybe a infrared camera could detect something quickly, or backlight with some sort of solvent, or hot water and a thermal camera.

Even then, it'd be hard to stop water from getting in. I guess you could pump hydraulic cement in. But with five box drains, just cut off the main shaft. Which is likely just a trench they dug and filled with gravel covered with coconut fiber and buried.
If they're willing to spend enough money, I bet theres a way to do it.

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Who knows, but someone went through a LOT of trouble to hide whatever it is... considering the era they think it was built in its something of an engineering miracle.
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If they're willing to spend enough money, I bet theres a way to do it.



Who knows, but someone went through a LOT of trouble to hide whatever it is... considering the era they think it was built in its something of an engineering miracle.
Like I said, the easiest no fuss way to ensure you cut it off is to build a water tight wall sub soil.

It's done every single day all across the world.
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Who knows, but someone went through a LOT of trouble to hide whatever it is... considering the era they think it was built in its something of an engineering miracle.
It's really not. Pretty simple design and execution from the info we have so far. Just need time and labor.

Both the existing main shaft as it sits today, and 10X were likely dug in the same way it was originally dig before filled back in. By hand, raising and lowering buckets.
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