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Old 11-14-2017, 01:24 PM  
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Alright, gun rights folks. You say the problem is mental health.

For years on this forum and pretty much anywhere I discuss gun control with 2nd amendment absolutists like many on this forum, I argue that we need gun control in various forms.

In addition to some of the more radical notions that "2nd amendment rights" are absolute, I also frequently hear that America actually has a mental health problem, not a gun problem.

This is an argument that many of you have aired.

So, I am asking for what policies you want to be seen to deal with mental illness.

Here we have a kid losing his shit on social media, and by all accounts is probably at-risk for doing something horrendous at some point (NSFW):



Feel free to ignore the text that frames the video by Occupy Democrats, as it's worthless. Focus on my question.

Now, obviously losing your shit in front of a camera does not mean you will shoot up a crowd of people, but I think if we're all putting together a profile of someone who could eventually do that, he fits the profile. (Also, imagine if this guy were black or Muslim.)

What is it, exactly, that the gun enthusiasts in this forum who believe America's problem is mental health, suggest that we do with this individual?

C'mon, folks. You told me the problem is mental health policy. Explain to me how you fix it to address people who fly off the handle and say crazy, violent shit like this.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:12 PM   #91
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Just an FYI...the NRA is not against, but actually for, an active mentally ill database to keep crazies from getting firearms. I just wanted to be clear on that point. Some people think the NRA wants EVERYONE to have the right to bear arms.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:56 PM   #92
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Go **** yourself you traitorous piece of shit. Gun control doesn’t do anything you stupid ****.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:05 PM   #93
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:07 PM   #94
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No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
And you are more than welcome to try and come confiscate them from those that disagree with you. But will you? Nope. Cause you’re too chickenshit to try, ****ing pussy, so instead you try to have politicians do it for you, or other people with families risk their lives to accomplish your goal. Because you’re a pussy and have no idea what the cost of freedom actually is. You’re a ****ing pathetic piece of shit too.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:23 PM   #95
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This is what it precludes in the way of the mentally ill:

An individual who "Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution."

So if you're just batshit crazy, that's not going to prevent you from making a legal purchase.

Additionally, anyone can buy a gun from a private party with no background check.
And how would you propose the gubment control my sale of personal property?
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:36 PM   #96
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No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
Of course not, but those twoare not the reason for the 2nd Amendment anyway. It's to prevent tyranny by govt;and if it should happen guns provides a way to get rid of those tyrants like we did in our War for Independence. You don't want your masters to be the only ones armed and the citizens have a right to have weapons that can fight that. It's been a bulwark that has prevented tyranny so far. It's tyrants like you today, who want ineffective weapons in the hands of a free people.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:39 PM   #97
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Just an FYI...the NRA is not against, but actually for, an active mentally ill database to keep crazies from getting firearms. I just wanted to be clear on that point. Some people think the NRA wants EVERYONE to have the right to bear arms.
Well can be both good and bad if the mental health label is slapped on someone by an authority with the govt, if they're a dissenter.

Honestly, I don't know which is worse the mental health camel nose in the tent or more gun controls.


Look at what the military is even doing now, because they lack enough personnel for all our bases over the world and all our unnecessary wars:
Army lifts ban on waivers for recruits with history of some mental health issues

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ues/853131001/
I don't know about you, but I see big unintended consequences coming out of that one. It's a sign the govt doesn't really care about mental illness being a threat.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:39 PM   #98
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No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.
youre an uneducated idiot

this has been explained to you man many times and yet you still lie , and /or are too stupid to understand this

there is no such thing as 'military style'

a weapon is either semi automatic or fully automatic

the 'style' is a bunch of bullshit made to keep lawmakers in business ...it is basically a COSMETIC difference when you are talkign about style, and the FUNCTION (action of the rifle) is the same



.all semi auto weapons have the same action: (go to 5:00 to see the action)



take 10 minutes, watch this video and actually educate yourself or you have no business talking about this subject. this is not the 1st time that i have linked you this video. So **** you in advance for ignoring the information and continuing to spout a bunch of ignorant bullshit everywhere you go on a topic you know nothing about.

fully auto , real assault weapons have been basically illegal since the 80's.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:49 PM   #99
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Is mental health the problem, pete? Or is it a lack of gun control?
You're a ****ing typical, liberal idiot. It's doesn't have to be one or the other. I know you libtards have problems comprehending this but it might just be self-control problems.

You ****heads are so quick to blame an inanimate object or a medical condition.

****ing morons.

Personal responsibility.....a concept that makes the liberal mind melt in agony
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:08 PM   #100
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:14 AM   #101
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I see a fine white conservative evangelical gentleman expressing his constitutional rights of freedom of speech as well as his constitutional right to bear arms.

Freaking libtards - everything has to be about race....

Oh yeah - Hillary uranium , Obama Muslim.

Ok now we have the typical responses out of the way.....

We have both gun and mental health issues. Solve the easiest one - the one that can do the most harm. No one needs a military style weapon for home defense or hunting.


I didn't realize the 2nd amendment was about home defense or hunting. I was fooled into believing it was more about the citizens control of our employees (government) if we were faced with tyranny.

I guess I learned something today.
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Old 11-15-2017, 01:09 AM   #102
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Quit reading at OccupyDemocrats watermark.

Also, nobody is normalizing "white terrorism". Google what the definition of terrorism is.

And $100 says not one person watched that video and thinks that's normal. But saying stupid shit on the internet/the n word isn't illegal. I see dumbasses of all colors flashing their guns on social media.

He didn't specifically threaten anyone.

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Old 11-15-2017, 03:31 AM   #103
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lol citizens would be able to do so close to nothing against a tyrannical govt. unless we have a supply of high explosives and drones no one is scared of a ar
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Old 11-15-2017, 07:08 AM   #104
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lol citizens would be able to do so close to nothing against a tyrannical govt. unless we have a supply of high explosives and drones no one is scared of a ar
Who you going to bring in to round up all those AR's, UN Storm-troopers? You think our standing military or law enforcement is going to go door to door?? You were born to be a victim. You're somewhere between a shih tzu and a door mat in the pecking order.

Good luck with that.
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I find it interesting that the entire military will follow a tyrannical government.


One would think that soldiers don't want to kill their own people. Just a thought.
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