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Old 11-13-2017, 01:08 AM  
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Jordan B Peterson: Postmodernism and why it must be fought

This man speaks the truth.

He's not a Trump supporter or even a conservative, either. He's a ****ing Canadian for crissakes.

But he is bang on.

Don't take my word for it. Watch the video and feel your brain wake up.

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Old 11-13-2017, 06:51 AM   #2
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:59 AM   #3
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Ask Jordan Peterson if he believes in god, and watch him spew post modernist philosophy at you.

"What do you mean by 'believe'? What do you mean by 'god'?"

It's actually hilarious how he positions himself as a guardian against this exact type of thinking.

He says some good things, but he frequently exposes himself as an academic who's lost inside his own ass.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:49 AM   #4
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I'm no fan of Derrida in particular or continental philosophy in general because their claims don't produce truly testable hypotheses, but Peterson completely misunderstands the most basic meaning of phallogocentrism. The logos part is not "logic", but how language structures our reality. Derrida was not attacking logic, he was interested in examining how language functions to create certain accepted facts that might not actually be so.

Stop watching YouTube videos and start reading.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:40 AM   #5
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:08 AM   #6
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I'm no fan of Derrida in particular or continental philosophy in general because their claims don't produce truly testable hypotheses, but Peterson completely misunderstands the most basic meaning of phallogocentrism. The logos part is not "logic", but how language structures our reality. Derrida was not attacking logic, he was interested in examining how language functions to create certain accepted facts that might not actually be so.

Stop watching YouTube videos and start reading.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:33 AM   #7
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I'm no fan of Derrida in particular or continental philosophy in general because their claims don't produce truly testable hypotheses, but Peterson completely misunderstands the most basic meaning of phallogocentrism. The logos part is not "logic", but how language structures our reality. Derrida was not attacking logic, he was interested in examining how language functions to create certain accepted facts that might not actually be so.

Stop watching YouTube videos and start reading.
Tried to rep you but hit enter too soon. It's disturbing that exposure for our students to even the basic philosophies is becoming more and more rare as time goes on. My undergrad required one philo course but I ended up taking two more once I got into the first one and discovered how much there was to learn and apply to modern life.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:33 AM   #8
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:28 PM   #9
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Stop trying to destroy the West, cucks.
Did you ever listen to the first podcast with Sam Harris where they spend the entire show debating the meaning of truth?

Sam, of course, considers something that is bound to empirical fact. Something is objectively true, or objectively not true. There is no relativism in reality for Harris.

Peterson? Yeah. His interpretation of truth seems to be 'if the core message is something I agree with and surrounded by lies and mythology, it's totally true!"

His religious apologetics exposed him.

God, you're one of those kekistan guys aren't you? Shadilay and so forth? Death to normies? Pepe memes and skinny jeans?
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:52 PM   #10
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No, you're way off. I don't even vote.

I just see a man holding firm to the ideals of western freedom in a world that is increasingly hostile towards them.
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I'm no fan of Derrida in particular or continental philosophy in general because their claims don't produce truly testable hypotheses, but Peterson completely misunderstands the most basic meaning of phallogocentrism. The logos part is not "logic", but how language structures our reality. Derrida was not attacking logic, he was interested in examining how language functions to create certain accepted facts that might not actually be so.

Stop watching YouTube videos and start reading.

To suggest that Derrida “did not attack logic” is hard to digest. I am guessing that you read ‘White Mythology’ and Specters of Marx.’
Logic used to be a formal/scientific method of examining or thinking about ideas.

Where is the logic in statements Derrida made like, “What deconstruction is not? Everything of course! What is deconstruction? Nothing of course!”

Derrida and his minions have helped to create an academic cesspool which has decimated western culture. Thanks in large part to the work of the deconstructionists - there is no longer a universal ‘is.’ We no longer share a reality - culturally speaking. Many don’t even believe in reality - except in an individual sense - the sense of personal narrative.
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Where is the logic in statements Derrida made like, “What deconstruction is not? Everything of course! What is deconstruction? Nothing of course!”

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There is rarely logic in statements you take wildly out of context.

That statement is from a letter that he wrote to a Japanese professor. The entirety of the statement is:

"The word "deconstruction", like all other words, acquires its value only from its inscription in a chain of possible substitutions, in what is too blithely called a "context". For me, for what I have tried and still try to write, the word has interest only within a certain context, where it replaces and lets itself be determined by such other words as "ecriture", "trace", "differance", "supplement", "hymen", "pharmakon", "marge", "entame", "parergon", etc. By definition, the list can never be closed, and I have cited only names, which is inadequate and done only for reasons of economy. In fact I should have cited the sentences and the interlinking of sentences which in their turn determine these names in some of my texts.

What deconstruction is not? everything of course! What is deconstruction? nothing of course! I do not think, for all these reasons, that it is a good word [un bon mot]. It is certainly not elegant [beau]. It has definitely been of service in a highly determined situation. In order to know what has been imposed upon it in a chain of possible substitutions, despite its essential imperfection, this "highly determined situation" will need to be analyzed and deconstructed."

Again, I refer to my initial statement regarding how Derrida was primarily interested in how language is an assembled set of contexts.

He wasn't saying, as you tried to claim with a butchered quote, that it means everything and nothing, he was saying that its definition is part of the 'highly determined situation,'.
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There is rarely logic in statements you take wildly out of context.

That statement is from a letter that he wrote to a Japanese professor. The entirety of the statement is:

"The word "deconstruction", like all other words, acquires its value only from its inscription in a chain of possible substitutions, in what is too blithely called a "context". For me, for what I have tried and still try to write, the word has interest only within a certain context, where it replaces and lets itself be determined by such other words as "ecriture", "trace", "differance", "supplement", "hymen", "pharmakon", "marge", "entame", "parergon", etc. By definition, the list can never be closed, and I have cited only names, which is inadequate and done only for reasons of economy. In fact I should have cited the sentences and the interlinking of sentences which in their turn determine these names in some of my texts.

What deconstruction is not? everything of course! What is deconstruction? nothing of course! I do not think, for all these reasons, that it is a good word [un bon mot]. It is certainly not elegant [beau]. It has definitely been of service in a highly determined situation. In order to know what has been imposed upon it in a chain of possible substitutions, despite its essential imperfection, this "highly determined situation" will need to be analyzed and deconstructed."

Again, I refer to my initial statement regarding how Derrida was primarily interested in how language is an assembled set of contexts.

He wasn't saying, as you tried to claim with a butchered quote, that it means everything and nothing, he was saying that its definition is part of the 'highly determined situation,'.

Derrida, the Marxist, would be proud of your efforts to explain his meaning. But as you know - 3 simple axioms focus on his meaning and intent:

Axiom 1. Everything can be given at least two equally cogent explanations.

Axiom 2. In the temporal process of thinking about anything, one explanation collapses into its contrary.

Axiom 3. This entire process occurs within a linguistic-semiotic structure of thought. From these three axioms can be derived all of the chief doctrines of Derrida’s writings.

“Certain American uses of deconstruction, Derrida has observed, work to ensure ‘an institutional closure’ which serves the dominant political and economic interests of American society. Derrida is clearly out to do more than develop new techniques of reading: deconstruction is for him an ultimately political practice, an attempt to dismantle the logic by which a particular system of thought, and behind that a whole system of political structures and social institutions, maintains its force.”
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