****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

[Saul Good]

the second thread has been pronounced dead.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

It's down at the moment but the league is not irrelevant as long as OU and Tx are in it.

Only SG can find a way to call a league that sent 90% of it's teams to bowls last year "irrelevant".

It's akin to saying Auburn is "irrelevant" a year after going winless in the conference. Oh wait! Now they're in the top 25! Incredible!

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

Who? Neb? Wisconsin but that's b/c of the league they play in, the whole lot of them are irrelevant. If they were still in the Big 12 and had their blue blood history to go w/ a coach that knew what he was doing w/ access to Tx players they'd be capable of winning a National Championship along w/ CC's. That's a huge loss for the Big 12.

Nebraska being a power once again. Saying they'll be more like WI going forward implies you think they lost out by moving too.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Only SG can find a way to call a league that sent 90% of it's teams to bowls last year "irrelevant".

It's akin to saying Auburn is "irrelevant" a year after going winless in the conference. Oh wait! Now they're in the top 25! Incredible!

Who cares what the mouth-breather thinks, just look at what Slive thinks of the Big 12.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Nebraska being a power once again. Saying they'll be more like WI going forward implies you think they lost out by moving too.

I do.

And it would have been a disaster for MU to have gone to that dump of a league too. Thank the good Lord they didn't want us (enough to offer us at that time) b/c we would have joined up.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Again, how is the conference suffering from having a down year in football? Each school is making more money than ever before thanks to TV deals struck based on a 10 team league.

Kansas, which sits at the bottom of the football side of things is poised to have one of the greatest money making seasons in the history of college basketball.

Where is all this suffering?

Congrats on the money. Sorry about the whole not winning any games and breaking negative attendance records.

[TribalElder]

How long is the record losing streak in big 12 football, is it 25 or 28?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Only SG can find a way to call a league that sent 90% of it's teams to bowls last year "irrelevant".

It's akin to saying Auburn is "irrelevant" a year after going winless in the conference. Oh wait! Now they're in the top 25! Incredible!

Auburn won a title three seasons ago. I said they aren't a bottom feeder...and they aren't. Kansas is the very definition of a bottom feeder...just look at your post about all the money you're slurping up.

The Big 12 wouldn't have placed a team in the playoff last year, and they don't even have a top ten team this year. Explain to me how they are relevant...perhaps in a way that doesn't involve the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

How long is the record losing streak in big 12 football, is it 25 or 28?

Who knows? The Big 12 can't count.

[TribalElder]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who knows? The Big 12 can't count.

K state currently holds it. I think it is 25 conference losses but I read 28 somewhere. I just wondered how many more games before KU football shatters the record

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

I do.

And it would have been a disaster for MU to have gone to that dump of a league too. Thank the good Lord they didn't want us (enough to offer us at that time) b/c we would have joined up.

I agree fully from the football perspective (although I think MU will be in the Arkansas-comparable purgatory of that league long term). But colleges exist for many more reasons than football matchups. The BIG is probably the best all around conference in the US. Probably by a good margin. Outside of football I don't see anything better about the sec

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Outside of football I don't see anything better about the sec

Baseball.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Baseball.

Basketball championships

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I agree fully from the football perspective (although I think MU will be in the Arkansas-comparable purgatory of that league long term). But colleges exist for many more reasons than football matchups. The BIG is probably the best all around conference in the US. Probably by a good margin. Outside of football I don't see anything better about the sec

Yep that's fair. I think we could have won the Big 12, that's something we were capable of b/c we only need to jump a couple powers in a given year. There are too many powers in the SEC making it virtually impossible to jump them all, which is why the big 6 has won the last 50 SEC titles or whatever the # is. But it's either that or slip into irrelevance in the Big Ten and get our asses kicked w/ a roster full of slow white guys by Big 12 and SEC schools in our bowl game.

Those other sports you reference pale in comparison to football from my POV. Plus you can make final four runs from any major league and even some of the lesser ones so in that sense I don't see it as a harbinger to hoops success although it definitely makes for a less entertaining regular season.

The SEC is the best conference in the country in baseball as well as football more years than not.

Also, I don't follow really any sports outside football, men's hoops, and baseball so I really have no idea but I did a little googling and while it's just one year it appears the SEC more than holds it's own in some of those other sports...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--...m-is-best.html

...at least in terms of champions. No idea about depth in those other sports. I actually would have figured it was the PAC 12, for some reason I have the perception that's the league winning titles in all those other sports most years. But again, I'm very uninformed b/c I honestly don't care. I get that others do and am not out to put that POV down.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

The BIG is probably the best all around conference in the US. Probably by a good margin.

Yeah but Penn State is in the Big 10, so I don't think so Tim.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who are these "bottom feeders"? Last year, you called Auburn a bottom feeder two years after they won a national title. Today, they are top 25.

Last year, you called Mizzou a bottom feeder after going 5-7 and barely missing out on a bowl game for the first time in nearly a decade. Now, they are 6-0 and ranked 14th. Hard to call that a bottom feeder.

You continue to call Ole Miss a bottom feeder less than a month after they crushed Texas in Austin. They've also got the number 1 recruiting class in the country.

You call Vanderbilt a bottom feeder, but they won 9 games last year including a bowl game.

You call Tennessee a bottom feeder, but they won a national title in the BCS era and have the number 2 recruiting class next year.

You call Arkansas a bottom feeder, but they just finished off a top 5 season two years ago by blowing out KSU in a bowl game. After a terrible season last year, the coach who just took Wisconsin to three straight Rose Bowls jumped at the opportunity to coach in the big leagues.

There are 14 teams in the SEC, and someone has to come in 13th and 14th place every year. This is a mathematical fact.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that just because you finish 10th in the Big 12 you aren't a bottom feeder. Not having enough teams to have anyone finish 11th and 12th in the Big 12 is not a testament to the strength of your conference. It's a tribute to years of mismanagement.

The Big 12 is a dying mall. Just because you got a youth group and a Dippin' Dots vendor in WVU and TCU to lease a couple of spots, that doesn't make you Rodeo Drive.