Dak Prescott this year's Russell Wilson?

[RunKC]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...des-art-top-16

Interesting. I don't think Matt Miller is some great scout, but I do believe the scouts telling him things.

Round 2 guy. I think he could fit in our offense very well. Ran a spread offense which makes me nervous, but he'll have time to learn if he's in KC

[Quesadilla Joe]

There was a report that the Broncos really like him.

[O.city]

The chiefs run so much spread stuff he'd fit in well.

I trolled a little and said he'd never play a down in the nfl. Don't remember where that was

[DJ's left nut]

Dak Prescott this year's EJ Manuel.

[ChiefsCountry]

Anybody with a brain knows the only reason why Wilson fell to the 3rd. It's because he is a midget. Prescott isn't a midget.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Dak Prescott this year's EJ Manuel.

Not even close.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

The chiefs run so much spread stuff he'd fit in well.

I trolled a little and said he'd never play a down in the nfl. Don't remember where that was

You and KC Native saying the same thing? You want that distinction?

[O.city]

He isn't very accurate. Thats not something very easily fixable

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

He isn't very accurate. Thats not something very easily fixable

Team after team after team has tried to 'correct' an inaccurate passer and the success rate can't be much better than 10%.

My theory has been pretty straightforward - you can fix things in the margins, but you probably can't improve so much as a full letter grade. A B- passer could maybe become a B+ passer. A D+ passer you may be able to get to a C.

But for most, even that much is pushing it. When it comes to accuracy, what you see is generally what you get. It's simple biomechanics - some guys have the physical ability to robotically repeat their delivery (Drew Brees is the best example) and those guys are going to be accurate. Other guys simply cannot physically do that no matter how hard they try. And if they can't repeat their delivery, especially under duress, they can't be accurate passers because they're essentially building on shifting sands.

I'll never really understand why people believe you can teach accuracy but you can't teach speed - 90% of the time they're the same source. It's biomechanics. To me, you can rarely teach either.

Your only hope is that you have a guy that's simply not very experienced so he's thinking rather than reacting. If you can polish him up and get him comfortable in the system, he stops having to use so much mental energy to figure out what's going on and suddenly his body starts to cooperate more.

This is why Conner Cook wouldn't be on my draft board. It's not the attitude thing, it's that he simply doesn't know where the ball's going to go about 1/3 of the time he throws it. That makes him a liability on 3rd downs and it's the ability to perform on 3rd down that makes guys true difference makers.

Conner Cook's ceiling is average because of that. He'll never be a 3rd down dart thrower so the best he can hope for is game manager that stays ahead of the sticks. And even that requires that he become much smarter with the football and stop turning it over (because he'll have some turnovers through mere errant passes; he can't afford to also have them off bad decisions).

Now what Prescott has going for him is that he showed a steady, repeatable growth curve. There were no massive leaps suggesting an outlier; just a guy that appears to have grown more and more comfortable in the offense and when he understood it, did a nice job. That said, I'd want to see his passing drills before I trusted him. Tim Tebow showed that a good completion% in college doesn't necessarily translate.

I've only seen him play in 3 or 4 games and I've never really been amazed by him. He looks jittery back there - a little too much Blaine Gabbert in his game. Once Gabbert started watching the rush it was over and Prescott appeared to be watching the rush more than I'd like. But that's why Dorsey gets paid a lot and I don't. He'll get better eyes on him than I've ever had.

[ChiefJ57]

A lot closer to Josh Freeman, IMO.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Team after team after team has tried to 'correct' an inaccurate passer and the success rate can't be much better than 10%.

My theory has been pretty straightforward - you can fix things in the margins, but you probably can't improve so much as a full letter grade. A B- passer could maybe become a B+ passer. A D+ passer you may be able to get to a C.

But for most, even that much is pushing it. When it comes to accuracy, what you see is generally what you get. It's simple biomechanics - some guys have the physical ability to robotically repeat their delivery (Drew Brees is the best example) and those guys are going to be accurate. Other guys simply cannot physically do that no matter how hard they try. And if they can't repeat their delivery, especially under duress, they can't be accurate passers because they're essentially building on shifting sands.

I'll never really understand why people believe you can teach accuracy but you can't teach speed - 90% of the time they're the same source. It's biomechanics. To me, you can rarely teach either.

Your only hope is that you have a guy that's simply not very experienced so he's thinking rather than reacting. If you can polish him up and get him comfortable in the system, he stops having to use so much mental energy to figure out what's going on and suddenly his body starts to cooperate more.

This is why Conner Cook wouldn't be on my draft board. It's not the attitude thing, it's that he simply doesn't know where the ball's going to go about 1/3 of the time he throws it. That makes him a liability on 3rd downs and it's the ability to perform on 3rd down that makes guys true difference makers.

Conner Cook's ceiling is average because of that. He'll never be a 3rd down dart thrower so the best he can hope for is game manager that stays ahead of the sticks. And even that requires that he become much smarter with the football and stop turning it over (because he'll have some turnovers through mere errant passes; he can't afford to also have them off bad decisions).

Now what Prescott has going for him is that he showed a steady, repeatable growth curve. There were no massive leaps suggesting an outlier; just a guy that appears to have grown more and more comfortable in the offense and when he understood it, did a nice job. That said, I'd want to see his passing drills before I trusted him. Tim Tebow showed that a good completion% in college doesn't necessarily translate.

I've only seen him play in 3 or 4 games and I've never really been amazed by him. He looks jittery back there - a little too much Blaine Gabbert in his game. Once Gabbert started watching the rush it was over and Prescott appeared to be watching the rush more than I'd like. But that's why Dorsey gets paid a lot and I don't. He'll get better eyes on him than I've ever had.

The amount of time and effort it takes to change muscle memory and delivery is pretty outlandish.

Now, cleaning up mechanics like footwork, weight transfer etc can effect accuracy but like you've more eloquently stated, you aren't getting a big jump.

I do think it can be greatly increased by increasing timing and anticipation, but again, that seems to be difficult to do.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Team after team after team has tried to 'correct' an inaccurate passer and the success rate can't be much better than 10%.

My theory has been pretty straightforward - you can fix things in the margins, but you probably can't improve so much as a full letter grade. A B- passer could maybe become a B+ passer. A D+ passer you may be able to get to a C.

But for most, even that much is pushing it. When it comes to accuracy, what you see is generally what you get. It's simple biomechanics - some guys have the physical ability to robotically repeat their delivery (Drew Brees is the best example) and those guys are going to be accurate. Other guys simply cannot physically do that no matter how hard they try. And if they can't repeat their delivery, especially under duress, they can't be accurate passers because they're essentially building on shifting sands.

I'll never really understand why people believe you can teach accuracy but you can't teach speed - 90% of the time they're the same source. It's biomechanics. To me, you can rarely teach either.

Your only hope is that you have a guy that's simply not very experienced so he's thinking rather than reacting. If you can polish him up and get him comfortable in the system, he stops having to use so much mental energy to figure out what's going on and suddenly his body starts to cooperate more.

This is why Conner Cook wouldn't be on my draft board. It's not the attitude thing, it's that he simply doesn't know where the ball's going to go about 1/3 of the time he throws it. That makes him a liability on 3rd downs and it's the ability to perform on 3rd down that makes guys true difference makers.

Conner Cook's ceiling is average because of that. He'll never be a 3rd down dart thrower so the best he can hope for is game manager that stays ahead of the sticks. And even that requires that he become much smarter with the football and stop turning it over (because he'll have some turnovers through mere errant passes; he can't afford to also have them off bad decisions).

Now what Prescott has going for him is that he showed a steady, repeatable growth curve. There were no massive leaps suggesting an outlier; just a guy that appears to have grown more and more comfortable in the offense and when he understood it, did a nice job. That said, I'd want to see his passing drills before I trusted him. Tim Tebow showed that a good completion% in college doesn't necessarily translate.

I've only seen him play in 3 or 4 games and I've never really been amazed by him. He looks jittery back there - a little too much Blaine Gabbert in his game. Once Gabbert started watching the rush it was over and Prescott appeared to be watching the rush more than I'd like. But that's why Dorsey gets paid a lot and I don't. He'll get better eyes on him than I've ever had.

Agree with Connor Cook. I know Prescott had a horrific OL and got hit a ton liek Hackenburg.
I don't know about Prescott bc he's from the generic bullshit college spread offense.

I prefer a drafted QB to be from a pro style offense.

[O.city]

So many of those spread concepts are present in the nfl now I don't think it matters as much.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Vernon Adams would be closer to this year's Russel Wilson.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Would be best to pick up Johnny Manziel, stick a boot in his ass and a slap up side his head and have our own HOF QB.