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Old 12-14-2015, 11:49 AM  
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Star Trek: Beyond
Paramount just released the trailer to Star Trek Beyond. I am less than pleased overall.



Justin Lin, the director of the last 3 F&F movies, is at the helm of this bullshit and from the tiny snippet of Simon Pegg jumping out of a pod and hanging off the side of a cliff... it looks equally as campy as F&F.

Justin Lin, the director of nothing but remakes and sequels, is also the guy in charge of the reshooting (because there won't be anything new about it) of the Highlander movie.

I love Trek but this new movie series has been largely garbage. Little to no rewatchability at all for either movie. For the first time ever... I am more excited for something Star Wars related than Trek.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:45 PM   #16
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Turning Star Trek into action schlock is the worst thing ever.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:56 PM   #17
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I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it either.

However, I felt the same way about the first trailer I saw of the original reboot. *Waiting and seeing; waiting and seeing.*
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:48 PM   #18
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That is one really bad trailer. Would be okay for a random sci-fi action flick but star trek? Just no tone of or connection to that universe at all.

Which doesn't mean the movie itself will be anything like the trailer, but Christ, imagine if they cut a trailer like that for the force awakens. There'd be a riot. ****ing horrific marketing. Which I guess shouldn't be a surprise from the idiots who thought Into Darkness was a good title for a star trek move. And didn't realize everyone could call it STD.

Some of these trailer editing teams are great. Like the ones who've worked on the force awakens. The production team on this one should be shitcanned yesterday.
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:58 PM   #19
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Some of these trailer editing teams are great. Like the ones who've worked on the force awakens. The production team on this one should be shitcanned yesterday.
Thing is though....both of the new films made money on being aimed at younger audiences and mostly being action schlock. They know their target audience on this and it's no longer hardcore Trekkies.

As long as they get general audiences in to see Star Trek they are satisfied, and they know they will get hardcore Trek fans in anyway, because let's be honest, I'm going to see this film just because it has Kirk in it and on the off chance Pegg didn't **** it up.

If they put out a trailer like this...no one under 30 would go see it.

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Old 12-14-2015, 04:03 PM   #20
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People under 30 are going to the movies on Friday in droves. You don't have to make everything look like a sugar rush on crack to get butts in seats. Make it look good, make it look worth people's time. Don't make it look trite. Make it look like an event. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't have to be a trailer from the 90s.

Hell, they've had trouble drawing an audience anyway....

And I will continue to say exactly what I said for Into Darkness: their marketing hurts more than it helps. I think that might be true with this.
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:07 PM   #21
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2009 was a fun movie, but it wasn't Star Trek. Nothing in the reboot has been, it's just action movies in space. STD was shit, and this looks even worse.
Bingo.
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:12 PM   #22
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Abrams produced this, which doesn't mean much. He didn't write it, didn't cast or direct it.
Isn't that what he is ultimately doing with Star Wars too? Directing the first one then just producing the rest?
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:14 PM   #24
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If they put out a trailer like this...no one under 30 would go see it.
Of course, that was also 20+ years ago. That was, imo, the 3rd best movie of the original 10 (and a darn good movie overall), right after WoK and First Contact.

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As long as they get general audiences in to see Star Trek they are satisfied, and they know they will get hardcore Trek fans in anyway, because let's be honest, I'm going to see this film just because it has Kirk in it and on the off chance Pegg didn't **** it up.
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Isn't that what he is ultimately doing with Star Wars too? Directing the first one then just producing the rest?
Well, it's different because he and Lawrence Kasdan literally mapped out the entire Star Wars Galaxy for the next 100 years. He's going to be much more closely involved in Star Wars and I'm sure he'll direct another one, at some point down the road.

I can't see him ever returning to direct Star Trek. He's just getting producer credit (and revenue) for jump starting the franchise.
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Some of these trailer editing teams are great. Like the ones who've worked on the force awakens. The production team on this one should be shitcanned yesterday.
I'm friends with several trailer editors and from my understanding, it's an extremely difficult job to be handed an unfinished 2 hour film, then try to whittle something interesting out of it for 60-120 seconds.

My guess is that since this film is far from complete, the director doesn't even know "what" the film will be, as so many films are actually created in Post.

But that said, there was no reason for Paramount to rush out a trailer, especially one as shitty as this one. I just hope that none of my friends edited it.
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One more thing: Why does the Enterprise need to be destroyed in every other Star Trek film? What's up with that?
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I'm friends with several trailer editors and from my understanding, it's an extremely difficult job to be handed an unfinished 2 hour film, then try to whittle something interesting out of it for 60-120 seconds.

My guess is that since this film is far from complete, the director doesn't even know "what" the film will be, as so many films are actually created in Post.

But that said, there was no reason for Paramount to rush out a trailer, especially one as shitty as this one. I just hope that none of my friends edited it.
I was thinking more along the lines of the producers, those 'visionary' folks telling us editor monkeys what to do...

And the marketing teams they're saddled to.
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What kind of a name is "Beyond" anyway for a movie.

You can tell they put real thought into that shit.
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Well, it's different because he and Lawrence Kasdan literally mapped out the entire Star Wars Galaxy for the next 100 years. He's going to be much more closely involved in Star Wars and I'm sure he'll direct another one, at some point down the road.

I can't see him ever returning to direct Star Trek. He's just getting producer credit (and revenue) for jump starting the franchise.
There's also the fact that he's been a Star Wars fan since childhood, and never a trekkie. Star Trek was a job. Force Awakens is a passion.

Which doesn't mean he won't **** it up...

(Total tangent but the funniest thing to me lately has been people complaining about TFA possibly being at it's core a remake. Like the first Star Wars is some original thing, rather than a pastiche of Dune, serials and Kurosawa movies...)
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