Willie McGinest thinks Marcus Peters can dethrone JJ Watt!

[BossChief]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...520-sf26646520

He thinks Marcus Peters can win DPOTY in 2016

[DJ's left nut]

'De-throne' wouldn't be a fair description.

I'd say JJ Watt abdicated and it's possible that Peters could finish strong and take his seat...

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Originally Posted by farmerchief

I love Marcus, and what he brings to this team. But in my opinion, he needs to tackle better, to move up into the elite status the next few years.

You dont think he's among the elite? Are there 5 other CBs you'd take over him in his spot?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056

You dont think he's among the elite? Are there 5 other CBs you'd take over him in his spot?

I wasn't of the mind that he meant 'elite corners'.

It's harder for a corner to impose his will on a game. The best corner in the world can lock down half the field, sure, but he's not able to really dictate the flow of an offense.

An elite LB or DL can be a force against the run and eliminate all types of downfield passing. Who would you rather have had last year, Josh Norman or Von Miller? Prior to that, JJ Watt or Richard Sherman?

It seemed to me that he meant all around elite player. When Peters isn't much of a force in the run game, about half the time he makes no difference at all and in the other half he's more of an annoyance than anything in that you should probably just not throw at him (though sometimes it's not that hard to throw over him).

To be an overall elite player, he needs to have a greater impact in all facets of the game.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Valiant

It is tough to win dpoy as a corner. If your great at your job they never throw to you. If your front seven gets no pressure you have to cover longer.

Peters would need houston back and to step up pressure to the the qb to force throws to win it. Then need 8plus ints with a couple scores.

This. Champ Bailey had a truly ridiculous year in 2006 (I think he caught more passes headed his way than the receivers he was covering did), but Jason Taylor won DPOTY with 13.5 sacks. It's really difficult for a CB to win.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

This. Champ Bailey had a truly ridiculous year in 2006 (I think he caught more passes headed his way than the receivers he was covering did), but Jason Taylor won DPOTY with 13.5 sacks. It's really difficult for a CB to win.

Also Revis in 2009 and Sherman in 2012 (or was it 2013?).

[Reerun_KC]

3rd down and Watt!

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I wasn't of the mind that he meant 'elite corners'.

It's harder for a corner to impose his will on a game. The best corner in the world can lock down half the field, sure, but he's not able to really dictate the flow of an offense.

An elite LB or DL can be a force against the run and eliminate all types of downfield passing. Who would you rather have had last year, Josh Norman or Von Miller? Prior to that, JJ Watt or Richard Sherman?

It seemed to me that he meant all around elite player. When Peters isn't much of a force in the run game, about half the time he makes no difference at all and in the other half he's more of an annoyance than anything in that you should probably just not throw at him (though sometimes it's not that hard to throw over him).

To be an overall elite player, he needs to have a greater impact in all facets of the game.

You right... Carry on.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think so, because the media loves him. They fawn over him, whether it's print media or broadcasters.

Back to Back DPOY honors don't hurt, either.

In this case Eric Fisher should be known as the HOF Legend Killer