Chiefs Sloppy play by starters mars Chiefs’ 26-13 preseason loss at Seattle

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-26-2017, 01:09 AM

Sloppy play by starters mars Chiefs’ 26-13 preseason loss at Seattle

BY TEREZ A. PAYLOR
tpaylor@kcstar.com

SEATTLE
Frank Zombo exploded off the snap on Friday and saw the Seattle Seahawks’ right guard pulling his way. A cut-block was coming.

Zombo, the Chiefs’ veteran outside linebacker, lowered his center of gravity to deflect it and reached his left hand high into the air in hopes of deflecting Russell Wilson’s goal-line pass.

One more inch to his left, and Zombo might have done just that. Alas.

The pass nestled into running back Tre Madden’s hands for a Seattle touchdown that left Zombo literally slapping his head in frustration.

It was an appropriate expression of annoyance, one that was likely felt by several of the Chiefs’ starters at different points during the first half of their 26-13 loss to the Seahawks at CenturyLink Field.

For a dress rehearsal — and don’t get it twisted, the Chiefs’ third preseason game of the year against one of the NFC’s best teams was exactly that — the outcome of this one was hardly ideal.

The Chiefs’ 16-10 halftime deficit did not reflect the one-sidedness of the game. Were it not for an impressive 95-yard kickoff return by the Chiefs’ De’Anthony Thomas, the deficit could have easily been greater.

“Everybody on offense — I’m not going to say we were frustrated — but going up against a great group like that, a top-of-the-line defense, we wanted to challenge ourselves,” Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce said. “Obviously, the outcome wasn’t what we wanted it to be.”

Consider the following issues that arose:

▪ Starting running back Spencer Ware was lost for the game with a knee injury on the first drive of the game. The extent of the injury is currently unclear, but he was carted off the field — never a good sign.

▪ Quarterback Alex Smith, who has been sharp all preseason, generally lacked cohesion with his receivers, finishing the game a mere 7 of 17 for 44 yards. His night also included plenty of drops, including a handful by usually sure-handed Tyreek Hill, and multiple near-misses.

Smith said they all had a hand in it — like any good quarterback — but Kelce put the responsibility on himself and the receivers. Chiefs coach Andy Reid also noted afterward that when the ball hits a receiver in the hands — which happened plenty of times Friday — he expects them to catch it.

“We had some drops early from our ones that normally don’t happen — we’re a pretty sure-handed football team,” Reid said.

▪ Nose tackle Bennie Logan lined up over the center on a missed field goal, which led to an illegal-defense penalty that allowed the Seahawks to attempt it again. The re-kick went in, of course.

▪ Speaking of penalties, the Chiefs committed six in the first half for 51 yards. They committed four for 40 yards on one excruciating Seattle drive alone, which resulted in touchdown that put the Seahawks ahead 13-3 in the second quarter. For the game, by the way, the Chiefs committed 14 penalties for 126 yards (Seattle had 13 for 129).

“Penalties, penalties — way too many,” Reid said.

▪ The Chiefs were outgained by the Seahawks 224 yards to 102, and Sam Ficken also missed a field goal — it was from 56 yards, but still — for good measure.

▪ Even Thomas, the hero of the first half, muffed a first-quarter kick. He eventually recovered the ball, but the miscue gave the Chiefs terrible field position at their own 4-yard line.

Shall we continue?

It’s not the end of the world, of course.

“It’s still preseason,” inside linebacker Derrick Johnson said. “It’s never as good as you think it is and it’s never as bad as you think it is.”

For instance, the Chiefs’ starters were sloppy, yes, but they did keep battling — the defense made a gutsy goal-line stand to hold Wilson and the rest of the Seahawks’ starters to a field goal right before the end of the half.

“We battled back a couple times in bad situations,” Johnson said.

Also, two of the Chiefs’ defensive stars were late scratches — outside linebacker Justin Houston (illness) and safety Eric Berry (heel) — while the energy-sapping nature of Ware’s injury should also be taken into account when evaluating the Chiefs’ performance.

Throw in the fact neither team called its best stuff on offense and defense Friday night — something multiple Chiefs were quick to cite — and it’s obvious the Chiefs veterans won’t have a hard time putting this one in the past.

“We still held a lot of things back, a lot of scheme back,” Kelce said. “Big Red isn’t throwing all the good stuff at them. We haven’t thrown anything at them that we’ve been working on.”

Still, the Chiefs’ starters essentially got beat by another good team’s front-line group thanks to their lack of execution. That’s something that must be cleaned up, because it won’t be long before the starters will have to take on another very strong team in a hostile environment.

The Chiefs’ season opener on Sept. 7, against the defending Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, is looming. And Friday’s rough performance, full of near-misses and what-should-have-beens across various positions, will ensure the Kansas City coaching staff has no shortage of ammunition as the team tries to smooth out the rough edges.

“This will be a good learning tape,” Reid said.

Nickhead · 08-26-2017, 01:13 AM

why does dee ford not know the definition of neutral zone and offsides?

other than that, i noticed that seattle hangs on to their tackles about two seconds longer than most. teetering on being penalized (at one point they held the tackle so long out of bounds it appeared the defender was dry humping the carrier). where as most other teams let up when the tackle is made. not sure if anyone else has noticed, but that not only wore kc down, but frustrated them too.

Rasputin · 08-26-2017, 01:19 AM

I wish they could move Dee Ford back to the left side so he could go against RT and not get mandled by LT.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-26-2017, 01:20 AM

Zombo is a ****ing joke

Rasputin · 08-26-2017, 01:23 AM

How "sick" was Houston that he couldn't play tonight and what about Eric Berry?

Nickhead · 08-26-2017, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

How "sick" was Houston that he couldn't play tonight and what about Eric Berry?

i spent a night in the hospital while they removed an infected thumb nail, came home and hand made chicken fried steak for the kids at free dollars an hour.

BlackOp · 08-26-2017, 01:36 AM

Thing about Seattle...they dont really "scheme" their defense like most. They line up and play...so today's game wasn't a whole lot different than the regular season. They are a top 5 defense..especially at home.

Earl Thomas and Chancellor got in their heads...

KC is a scheme dependent offense...and Kelce stated that they didn't show anything they have been working on. Chiefs arent a great offensive team anyways but if they try to go toe for toe against the Seahawks...without motion/mismatches...they dont have a chance. They dont have the talent.

It doesn't excuse the drops and penalties....you never see NE starters shit the bed like this.

Ware gets hurt and it throws the whole team off...Edelman blows his knee out...they put up 24 in the first quarter.

Chiefs are soft...and it starts with Reid. Every facet sucked. If they show up this skittish on opening night, it's going to be like the first Steeler's game....over in the 1st quarter.

I know it's only the preseason but this was their "dress rehearsal"...and they were an undisciplined mess.

CoMoChief · 08-26-2017, 02:00 AM

Its preseason.

They played sloppy, and need to play more disciplined. Can't be having penalties out the wazoo if they're gonna win in the reg season.

I think KC is the better team, they just weren't today.

But if this defense is going to be elite, Justin Houston has to show up this yr.

BlackOp · 08-26-2017, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

But if this defense is going to be elite, Justin Houston has to show up this yr.

The starters haven't really got much pressure all preseason...Seattle was all over KC.

Simply Red · 08-26-2017, 02:09 AM

I didn't even hear Kendrell Bell's name all game!

Why Not? · 08-26-2017, 02:15 AM

Paylor mentions the energy sucking loss of Spenecer Ware. I don't think this can be stated enough. NFL players are on record that they hate pre-season games. KC sees a starter and by all accounts, a well liked player, go down with what at the times looks like a devastating knee injury. I wouldn't be surprised at all if many players, especially starters or locks to make the team, mentally shut it down at that point and focused mostly on avoiding injury.

**007** · 08-26-2017, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

Paylor mentions the energy sucking loss of Spenecer Ware. I don't think this can be stated enough. NFL players are on record that they hate pre-season games. KC sees a starter and by all accounts, a well liked player, go down with what at the times looks like a devastating knee injury. I wouldn't be surprised at all if many players, especially starters or locks to make the team, mentally shut it down at that point and focused mostly on avoiding injury.

Trying to avoid injury generally ends in getting injured.

TEX · 08-26-2017, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

I didn't even hear Kendrell Bell's name all game!

Or Justin Houston's.

TEX · 08-26-2017, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Its preseason.

They played sloppy, and need to play more disciplined. Can't be having penalties out the wazoo if they're gonna win in the reg season.

I think KC is the better team, they just weren't today.

But if this defense is going to be elite, Justin Houston has to show up this yr.

How can you say that you think KC is the better team? KC is good, but wasnt last night. Seattle is better and showed it. Seattle had almost as many penalties, yet still managed to dominate. Juston Houston has shown us who he is. Better not count on him. All in all it was a bad showing for KC on the road to a better team. Its just preseason so hopefully they get it out of their system.

TEX · 08-26-2017, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Thing about Seattle...they dont really "scheme" their defense like most. They line up and play...so today's game wasn't a whole lot different than the regular season. They are a top 5 defense..especially at home.

Earl Thomas and Chancellor got in their heads...

KC is a scheme dependent offense...and Kelce stated that they didn't show anything they have been working on. Chiefs arent a great offensive team anyways but if they try to go toe for toe against the Seahawks...without motion/mismatches...they dont have a chance. They dont have the talent.

It doesn't excuse the drops and penalties....you never see NE starters shit the bed like this.

Ware gets hurt and it throws the whole team off...Edelman blows his knee out...they put up 24 in the first quarter.

Chiefs are soft...and it starts with Reid. Every facet sucked. If they show up this skittish on opening night, it's going to be like the first Steeler's game....over in the 1st quarter.

I know it's only the preseason but this was their "dress rehearsal"...and they were an undisciplined mess.

Yep. Nailed it.

08-26-2017, 01:09 AM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $952813	Sloppy play by starters mars Chiefs’ 26-13 preseason loss at Seattle Sloppy play by starters mars Chiefs’ 26-13 preseason loss at Seattle BY TEREZ A. PAYLOR tpaylor@kcstar.com SEATTLE Frank Zombo exploded off the snap on Friday and saw the Seattle Seahawks’ right guard pulling his way. A cut-block was coming. Zombo, the Chiefs’ veteran outside linebacker, lowered his center of gravity to deflect it and reached his left hand high into the air in hopes of deflecting Russell Wilson’s goal-line pass. One more inch to his left, and Zombo might have done just that. Alas. The pass nestled into running back Tre Madden’s hands for a Seattle touchdown that left Zombo literally slapping his head in frustration. It was an appropriate expression of annoyance, one that was likely felt by several of the Chiefs’ starters at different points during the first half of their 26-13 loss to the Seahawks at CenturyLink Field. For a dress rehearsal — and don’t get it twisted, the Chiefs’ third preseason game of the year against one of the NFC’s best teams was exactly that — the outcome of this one was hardly ideal. The Chiefs’ 16-10 halftime deficit did not reflect the one-sidedness of the game. Were it not for an impressive 95-yard kickoff return by the Chiefs’ De’Anthony Thomas, the deficit could have easily been greater. “Everybody on offense — I’m not going to say we were frustrated — but going up against a great group like that, a top-of-the-line defense, we wanted to challenge ourselves,” Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce said. “Obviously, the outcome wasn’t what we wanted it to be.” Consider the following issues that arose: ▪ Starting running back Spencer Ware was lost for the game with a knee injury on the first drive of the game. The extent of the injury is currently unclear, but he was carted off the field — never a good sign. ▪ Quarterback Alex Smith, who has been sharp all preseason, generally lacked cohesion with his receivers, finishing the game a mere 7 of 17 for 44 yards. His night also included plenty of drops, including a handful by usually sure-handed Tyreek Hill, and multiple near-misses. Smith said they all had a hand in it — like any good quarterback — but Kelce put the responsibility on himself and the receivers. Chiefs coach Andy Reid also noted afterward that when the ball hits a receiver in the hands — which happened plenty of times Friday — he expects them to catch it. “We had some drops early from our ones that normally don’t happen — we’re a pretty sure-handed football team,” Reid said. ▪ Nose tackle Bennie Logan lined up over the center on a missed field goal, which led to an illegal-defense penalty that allowed the Seahawks to attempt it again. The re-kick went in, of course. ▪ Speaking of penalties, the Chiefs committed six in the first half for 51 yards. They committed four for 40 yards on one excruciating Seattle drive alone, which resulted in touchdown that put the Seahawks ahead 13-3 in the second quarter. For the game, by the way, the Chiefs committed 14 penalties for 126 yards (Seattle had 13 for 129). “Penalties, penalties — way too many,” Reid said. ▪ The Chiefs were outgained by the Seahawks 224 yards to 102, and Sam Ficken also missed a field goal — it was from 56 yards, but still — for good measure. ▪ Even Thomas, the hero of the first half, muffed a first-quarter kick. He eventually recovered the ball, but the miscue gave the Chiefs terrible field position at their own 4-yard line. Shall we continue? It’s not the end of the world, of course. “It’s still preseason,” inside linebacker Derrick Johnson said. “It’s never as good as you think it is and it’s never as bad as you think it is.” For instance, the Chiefs’ starters were sloppy, yes, but they did keep battling — the defense made a gutsy goal-line stand to hold Wilson and the rest of the Seahawks’ starters to a field goal right before the end of the half. “We battled back a couple times in bad situations,” Johnson said. Also, two of the Chiefs’ defensive stars were late scratches — outside linebacker Justin Houston (illness) and safety Eric Berry (heel) — while the energy-sapping nature of Ware’s injury should also be taken into account when evaluating the Chiefs’ performance. Throw in the fact neither team called its best stuff on offense and defense Friday night — something multiple Chiefs were quick to cite — and it’s obvious the Chiefs veterans won’t have a hard time putting this one in the past. “We still held a lot of things back, a lot of scheme back,” Kelce said. “Big Red isn’t throwing all the good stuff at them. We haven’t thrown anything at them that we’ve been working on.” Still, the Chiefs’ starters essentially got beat by another good team’s front-line group thanks to their lack of execution. That’s something that must be cleaned up, because it won’t be long before the starters will have to take on another very strong team in a hostile environment. The Chiefs’ season opener on Sept. 7, against the defending Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, is looming. And Friday’s rough performance, full of near-misses and what-should-have-beens across various positions, will ensure the Kansas City coaching staff has no shortage of ammunition as the team tries to smooth out the rough edges. “This will be a good learning tape,” Reid said.
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BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $5875267	Thing about Seattle...they dont really "scheme" their defense like most. They line up and play...so today's game wasn't a whole lot different than the regular season. They are a top 5 defense..especially at home. Earl Thomas and Chancellor got in their heads... KC is a scheme dependent offense...and Kelce stated that they didn't show anything they have been working on. Chiefs arent a great offensive team anyways but if they try to go toe for toe against the Seahawks...without motion/mismatches...they dont have a chance. They dont have the talent. It doesn't excuse the drops and penalties....you never see NE starters shit the bed like this. Ware gets hurt and it throws the whole team off...Edelman blows his knee out...they put up 24 in the first quarter. Chiefs are soft...and it starts with Reid. Every facet sucked. If they show up this skittish on opening night, it's going to be like the first Steeler's game....over in the 1st quarter. I know it's only the preseason but this was their "dress rehearsal"...and they were an undisciplined mess. Last edited by BlackOp; 08-26-2017 at 01:54 AM..
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