Conceal Carry weapon choices

[Holladay]

Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search.

I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military)

My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well.

Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state.

I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista).

We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400.

We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs".

My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze.

I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home.

Thoughts?

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I hear you about the reloading, but IMHO most (not all) women using a weapon is 90% just to buy herself some time to get away from an imminent threat

I can totally see a woman with minimal firearms training freezing up during a jam, give them something to put the hurt on quick so they can scram

I don't necessarily disagree. I have never had a jam with either the Glock or M&P. I have seen it happen with some other garbage semi-autos *cough* aimpoint *cough*.

[Holladay]

You're 100% right, my bad... get her a revolver that will never jam in an easy to handle caliber

A small load on target is worth any three that dont hit

Revolvers have a heavier, longer pull.

Most women don't like that.......in a handgun.

These are the thoughts.

[Holladay]

I hear you about the reloading, but IMHO most (not all) women using a weapon is 90% just to buy herself some time to get away from an imminent threat

I can totally see a woman with minimal firearms training freezing up during a jam, give them something to put the hurt on quick so they can scram

This

[LiveSteam]

Wheel guns don't jam, stove pipe,fail to eject or fail to reload. They bang everytime.
If the misses should ever have to pull a weapon to protect herself, it will be at point blank or close to.
I like the Judge loaded with.410 buck shot & 45long colt

[Holladay]

Wheel guns don't jam, stove pipe,fail to eject or fail to reload. They bang everytime.
If the misses should ever have to pull a weapon to protect herself, it will be at point blank or close to.
I like the Judge loaded with.410 buck shot & 45long colt

My mom was saying something like that from Bill o'really. A gun that had buck shot and a pistol???

I can't remember the name, but the concept seemed solid.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Wheel guns don't jam, stove pipe,fail to eject or fail to reload. They bang everytime.
If the misses should ever have to pull a weapon to protect herself, it will be at point blank or close to.
I like the Judge loaded with.410 buck shot & 45long colt

While you are correct the only time I have ever gotten one of those stovepipe/failure to feed/eject was when I set the weapon up with that. I think, although I'm no expert, that all those come from using shitty ammo.

*edit* or a bad magazine.

[dmahurin]

Originally Posted by Holladay

My mom was saying something like that from Bill o'really. A gun that had buck shot and a pistol???

I can't remember the name, but the concept seemed solid.

Its the taurus judge. 410 shells or 45 long colt. Definitely not for the old lady.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Holladay

My mom was saying something like that from Bill o'really. A gun that had buck shot and a pistol???

I can't remember the name, but the concept seemed solid.

The judge.

[dmahurin]

Stove piping is an ammo issue. All other failures from a semi auto are going to be user induced 99% of the time.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Holladay

My mom was saying something like that from Bill o'really. A gun that had buck shot and a pistol???

I can't remember the name, but the concept seemed solid.

Originally Posted by dmahurin

Its the taurus judge. 410 shells or 45 long colt. Definitely not for the old lady.

Yeah, that's more of a home defense weapon, not a CC.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by dmahurin

A glock 19. Huge fan of the current critical duty 9mm rounds. Hornady makes grest stuff. Doing everything I can to get the department to switch. Im a glock armor, NRA pistol instructor and range master, MO LETI instructor for pistol and shotgun. Im making progress on them but no progress around here moves fast.

I carry a 19 on duty with two 17 mags on my belt, 19 mag in the gun. I also rock out with three extra mags on my door. Carry three extra mags for my rifle as well.

If I could only get our department to let me carry my KSG I'd be set. 14 rounds of shotgun shells would be badass. Clearing buildings with a bullpup shotgun would be so much better.

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by frozenchief

It is a little more than you want to spend, but I would get a Glock 27. It is a small Glock in .40, so you have a good caliber with lots of ammo choices. It is small enough to carry but it sounds like your wife could handle the extra recoil of the .40. New they start about $495, but I bet you could find a used one for less.

If you want more info, check out:

http://www.tophandgunreviews.com/Glock_27.html

I wouldn't recommend a glock at all unless she has big hands for a woman. They have pretty wide grips. The 27 is small enough to carry, but to be honest, it's bigger than most people want to carry on a daily basis. And the kick of the 40 isn't terrible, but it's not insignificant in a gun that small. An M & P Shield, A Ruger LC9, or probably even better yet, a .38 or .380 of some sort will get the job done in a package much more likely to be carried regularly.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by dmahurin

Its the taurus judge. 410 shells or 45 long colt. Definitely not for the old lady.

My wife has one under the bed.

[kjwood75nro]

"Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy" seems to imply, by design, a fired gun and an uninjured assailant. Not a good mindset for CC.

[frozenchief]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Nobody else around here is protecting themselves from bears.

If I am protecting myself from bears, I have an 8" ported barrel S&W .460. I am under no illusions, though. I would hate to have to shoot it because it means that the bear is right there and isn't stopping. By that point in time, unless you hit the bear just right with a large rifle, you are going to take some damage. The .460 will hurt the bear with proper bullet placement, but I seriously doubt it would put a bear down immediately. I take it to hopefully dissuade the bear from continuing its provocation.

I have fired it in the air to startle a bear that I thought was too close. Damn near came into camp in the middle of the night. About the only time I'd fire a gun into the air for a warning shot, though.

If I have just a carry gun, I use an HK sub-compact USP in .45. I love that gun.