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Old 04-27-2018, 03:33 PM  
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Projection for Rounds 2 and 3
What the hell... the 1st round was so out of whack, maybe I can predict 1 out of the next 68 picks too...

Round 2
33. Cleveland Browns - Connor Williams, OT, Texas
34. New York Giants - James Daniels, OC, Iowa
35. Cleveland Browns (f/HOU) - Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
36. Indianapolis Colts - Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
37. Indianapolis Colts (f/NYJ) - Harold Landry, EDGE, Boston College
38. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP
39. Chicago Bears - Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado
40. Denver Broncos - Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
41. Oakland Raiders - Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
42. Miami Dolphins - Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
43. New England Patriots (f/SF) - Justin Reid, FS, Stanford
44. Washington Redskins - Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
45. Green Bay Packers - Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama
46. Cincinnati Bengals - Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State
47. Arizona Cardinals - Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
48. Los Angeles Chargers - Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
49. Indianapolis Colts (f/SEA via NYJ) - Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
50. Dallas Cowboys - Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame
51. Detroit Lions - Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas
52. Philadelphia Eagles (f/BAL) - Donte Jackson, CB, LSU
53. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (f/BUF) - Ronald Jones II, RB, USC
54. Kansas City Chiefs - Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn
55. Carolina Panthers - Jessie Bates, FS, Wake Forest
56. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (f/ LAR via BUF) - M.J. Stewart, CB, North Carolina
57. Tennessee Titans - Lorenzo Carter, EDGE, Georgia
58. Atlanta Falcons - Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
59. San Francisco 49ers (f/NO) - Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
60. Pittsburgh Steelers - Darius Leonard, ILB, South Carolina State
61. Jacksonville Jaguars - Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
62. Minnesota Vikings - Braden Smith, OG, Auburn
63. New England Patriots - Rasheem Green, DE, USC
64. Cleveland Browns (f/PHI) - D.J. Chark, WR, LSU

Round 3
65. Baltimore Ravens (f/CLE via BUF) - Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
66. New York Giants - Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State
67. Indianapolis Colts - Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
68. Houston Texans - Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh
69. New York Giants (f/TB) - Fred Warner, OLB, BYU
70. San Francisco 49ers (f/CHI) - Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama
71. Denver Broncos - Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
72. New York Jets - Martinas Rankin, OL, Mississippi State
73. Miami Dolphins - B.J. Hill, DT, N.C. State
74. San Francisco 49ers - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
75. Oakland Raiders - Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn
76. Seattle Seahawks (f/GB) - Kemoko Turay, DE, Rutgers
77. Cincinnati Bengals - Austin Corbett, OL, Nevada
78. Kansas City Chiefs (f/WAS) - Rashaan Gaulden, DB, Tennessee
79. Pittsburgh Steelers (f/ARZ via OAK) - Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky
80. Houston Texans (f/SEA) - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma
81. Dallas Cowboys - DeShon Elliott, SS, Texas
82. Detroit Lions - Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
83. Baltimore Ravens - Genard Avery, ILB, Memphis
84. Los Angeles Chargers - Joseph Noteboom, OT, Texas Christian
85. Carolina Panthers (f/BUF) - Duke Dawson, CB, Florida
86. Kansas City Chiefs - Uchenna Nwosu, EDGE, USC
87. Los Angeles Rams - Arden Key, EDGE, LSU
88. Carolina Panthers - Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State
89. Tennessee Titans - Scott Quessenberry, OC, UCLA
90. Atlanta Falcons - Isaac Yiadom, CB, Boston College
91. New Orleans Saints - Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
92. Pittsburgh Steelers - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
93. Jacksonville Jaguars - Will Richardson, OT, N.C. State
94. Minnesota Vikings - Nyheim Hines, RB, N.C. State
95. New England Patriots - Luke Falk, QB, Washington State
96. Buffalo Bills (f/PHI) - James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
97. Arizona Cardinals (Comp) - Dane Cruikshank, FS, Arizona
98. Houston Texans (Comp) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
99. Denver Broncos (Comp) - Dante Pettis, WR, Washington
100. Cincinnati Bengals (Comp) - Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State
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Old 04-27-2018, 03:41 PM   #2
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Old 04-27-2018, 08:38 PM   #3
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Holy mother of God, I got one hahaha. Okorafor to the Steelers.
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:38 PM   #4
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What a waste of time. I’m not singling you out because I do the same damn thing every ****ing year. I used to enjoy it.

Planning on players who will fall to the Chiefs only to have them trade up to pick a player you had in the 6th round. I’m not doing it anymore because when I see players go to other teams that I wanted on the Chiefs & see the Chiefs draft developmental players & special teamers...it just makes me mad.

I’m done with it.

None of the players the Chiefs drafted was even on my list or yours. I can’t tell if these were Andy’s picks or Veach’s but I don’t see any starters tonight. Mahomes knows what it’s like playing on a team you need to score every possession.

Done venting.

I’m not watching tomorrow because what’s the point? It’s not enjoyable anymore.
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Old 04-27-2018, 10:27 PM   #5
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Oh I think both Breeland and Nnadi are future starters. I really, really liked Breeland but I didn't think he'd have to be taken that high. Nnadi is one of the top few nose tackle prospects in this draft. They might not be impact players year one, but they'll be the future.

I don't think Dorian amounts to anything more than a nickel linebacker/special teamer, but if he's really good at it then he's worth a late 3rd in the end.
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Old 04-27-2018, 10:41 PM   #6
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Oh I think both Breeland and Nnadi are future starters. I really, really liked Breeland but I didn't think he'd have to be taken that high. Nnadi is one of the top few nose tackle prospects in this draft. They might not be impact players year one, but they'll be the future.

I don't think Dorian amounts to anything more than a nickel linebacker/special teamer, but if he's really good at it then he's worth a late 3rd in the end.


I had really high hopes for the draft this year so I’m disappointed in the picks. I wanted 3 starters on defense tonight. They didn’t get that. I had Breeland in the 6th round & not a candidate as a trade up to acquire him.

I hope you are right but there’s a part of me worried that Dorsey was the best talent evaluator & Veach rode Mahomes coattails Into the GM job.
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I had really high hopes for the draft this year so I’m disappointed in the picks. I wanted 3 starters on defense tonight. They didn’t get that. I had Breeland in the 6th round & not a candidate as a trade up to acquire him.

I hope you are right but there’s a part of me worried that Dorsey was the best talent evaluator & Veach rode Mahomes coattails Into the GM job.
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I had really high hopes for the draft this year so I’m disappointed in the picks. I wanted 3 starters on defense tonight. They didn’t get that. I had Breeland in the 6th round & not a candidate as a trade up to acquire him.

I hope you are right but there’s a part of me worried that Dorsey was the best talent evaluator & Veach rode Mahomes coattails Into the GM job.
There was no way in hell Speaks was gonna go all the way to the 6th. Dude is gonna be a stud.
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Out of all of the selections Nnadi, was truly a " pure position" player. Speaks and O'Daniels were standout SPARQ guys who have scheme versatility and Watts tested poorly due to added weight.

Ultimately, Veach looks at tape but metrics still factor in but it isn't mandatory like it is/was with Dorsey.
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I can't imagine Speaks scored that high in the sparq rating, no?
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I can't imagine Speaks scored that high in the sparq rating, no?
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In this class, though.

Overall, his sparq score isn't that high compared to league average for DL.
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In this class, though.

Overall, his sparq score isn't that high compared to league average for DL.
I don't know anything about SPARQ, but that table says the NFL average is 0.0 Z score so he is considerably above NFL average?

EDIT: I just looked at 2017 from the link above and Tanoh has a considerably higher Z score than Speaks, so maybe it's a meaningless measure anyway.
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