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Old 11-06-2012, 03:35 AM  
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Pro Football Reference's simple rating system and the 2012 Chiefs
Read this post slowly and carefully. Do not skip to the end. You need to fully comprehend the content of this post to appreciate the impact of the message.

The SRS on PFR is a great tool to compare teams historically beyond W-L record. A definition:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=538

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To refresh your memory, it’s a system that’s been around forever and is extremely basic compared some of the other power rating systems out there. But I like it because it’s easy to understand.

An average team will have a rating of zero. An above average team will have a positive rating while a below average team will have a negative rating.

Every team will have a rating that is the equal to their average point margin plus the average of their opponent’s ratings, so the teams’ ratings are all interdependent.

The Colts’ rating depends upon the ratings of all their opponents, which depends upon the ratings of all their opponents (some of which are the Colts), and so on.
Let's take a look at some SRS for good Chiefs teams.



1968 +14.0
1969 +11.9

1997 +8.4
2003 +8.3


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad Chiefs teams.




2008 -9.2
1988 -5.7
1977 -4.9


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad teams throughout NFL history.

This is the SRS rating for the worst teams these franchises have fielded. Any franchise that did not hit close to -15 or worse was excluded.




2000 Cardinals -15.2
1966 Falcons -15.5
2000 Browns -14.6
1960 Cowboys -14.8
2009 Lions -14.4
1950 Packers -18.2
1991 Colts -17.3
2012 Jaguars -15.5
1972 Patriots -17.4
1966 Giants -16.8
1965 Steelers -18.3
1976 Seahawks -15.1
2009 Rams -17.4
1976 Oilers -16.8


You may have noticed I left out all of Scott Pioli's Chiefs teams.

Let's take a look at those juggernauts!



2009 -8.4
2010 -0.7
2011 -8.1


Ouch. Even when Pioli fielded a winning team, it had a negative rating. Overrated team? Yes.


We're about to get to the 2012 Chiefs. Hang tight.


Are you ready for this, Scott?



YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS, PIOLI.



GET READY TO BURN, YOU FRAUD!!!!





The Three Worst Teams In NFL History.


T-1. 1976 Bucs -19.7

T-1. 1954 Redskins -19.7

2. 2012 Kansas City Chiefs -18.4


Hang tight, boys. Eight games left. We can still field...

The Worst Team In NFL History.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:34 AM   #31
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Just wow.

If Clark Hunt keeps Pioli...It is further proof that he does not care whatsoever.

And I'll be done with this team.

I tweeted this thread out to a bunch of the local media so they can see it...

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Wow...interesting stuff. RT @BrentBertrand: Chiefs fans: READ THE ORIGINAL POST ON THIS THREAD. @theprogramkc

Hopefully he'll talk about it...
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:37 AM   #32
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:43 AM   #33
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GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? ****ing reeruns. Well done, sir.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:49 AM   #34
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If only we lost to the saints so we can be in the Loins den & go 0~16. Then I think we would get more notoriety on the national level.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:54 AM   #35
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If only we lost to the saints so we can be in the Loins den & go 0~16. Then I think we would get more notoriety on the national level.
That's the crazy thing. We can end up leaps and bounds worse than a team that went 0-fer in a season.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:57 AM   #36
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GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? ****ing reeruns. Well done, sir.
No doubt.

He's gone full Goatse on the front office over the last month or so.

Even though he was a full-fledged Pioli-smoker and is actually fairly late to this party, I have to give him a great deal of credit for picking up the baton and running wi....no, that's not right. I give him credit for picking up the baton and jamming it right up Pioli's posterior.

Well done, Clay.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:11 PM   #37
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Look at Saccopoop, finding the silver lining. Lots of truth to his post.

For me, this year has turned into pure fascination. I'm enthralled to watch at this point. I've never seen such shitty pro football played in my entire life (or at least from when I started really paying attention, circa 1990), especially from a Chiefs team. Gunther had a decent team and a kinda bad team. Herm had bad teams. What we are watching now just totally sets a new bar for the term "awful".

Pure fascination. Let's see how far down this sinkhole drops.
The truly mindboggling thing is this team has a lot of talent.

Winston, Albert, Lilja, Asomoah, Bowe, Breaston, Charles, Hillis, hell even Droghn is talented, and McCluster, if they'd use him isn't terrible.

on the other side, Tamba, Houston, Powe, Flowers DJ, Berry.

All good players. AND they find a way to be the third worst team in the history of the mother****ing league. WHAT THE ****.
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The truly mindboggling thing is this team has a lot of talent.
Winston, Albert, Lilja, Asomoah, Bowe, Breaston, Charles, Hillis, hell even Droghn is talented, and McCluster, if they'd use him isn't terrible.

on the other side, Tamba, Houston, Powe, Flowers DJ, Berry.

All good players. AND they find a way to be the third worst team in the history of the mother****ing league. WHAT THE ****.
No, it doesn't. Alot of those guys are crap. Pure ****ing crap. I wanted them to be good but, It's time to start being honest.

It's not all on Cassel, Pioli, and Crennel.
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No, it doesn't. Alot of those guys are crap. Pure ****ing crap. I wanted them to be good but, It's time to start being honest.

It's not all on Cassel, Pioli, and Crennel.
We know, Scott. It's not all your fault.

It's Bowe's fault. And DJ's.
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It's not all on Cassel, Pioli, and Crennel.


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With all of the positive research that Clay has been doing lately... how in the **** is he still in the negative red rep?
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GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? ****ing reeruns. Well done, sir.
It would be great if this became his new niche on this board.
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ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.
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