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Old 07-14-2016, 06:38 PM  
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:38 PM   #136
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:54 PM   #137
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Dee Ford put pressure on Brady last year, just enough to get him to step up and fire downhill for a back-breaking first down.

No, pressures are nowhere near as important. Pressure just means you made the QB improvise. Good QBs can do that and will still beat you.

Sacks mean you just took their lunch money.

Good players get pressures, great players finish the job. Don't lower the bar for a guy that's getting paid like a great player.
I'll give credit where credit is due: Dee is good at getting pressure the same way a dog is good at chasing cars. He just doesn't seem to know what to do once he catches up.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:34 PM   #138
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Maybe you did and maybe you didn't see every game for the first 3yrs like I did. "Flash and hide" routine. When he was forced to give up the weed is when he started to play with more consistency. The last half of the 14 season,all of 15 he was the best no doubt. But he got his $$ now. We'll see

He's got the statistics. Von's had a sack in a higher percentage of games than almost anyone.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:35 PM   #139
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:38 PM   #140
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Giving that kind of $$$$$ to a dude with Von's off the field issues is a risk. He's a great player, no doubt, but I wouldn't want him to have that contract if he was a Chief.

We'll see . . . . . .
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Old 07-16-2016, 12:59 AM   #141
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Clean sack that would have pretty much ended the game was negat ed d by one of the most bogus calls i have ever seen.
It would have ended the game on 2nd down? Interesting.
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He's got the statistics. Von's had a sack in a higher percentage of games than almost anyone.
Not almost.
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Giving that kind of $$$$$ to a dude with Von's off the field issues is a risk. He's a great player, no doubt, but I wouldn't want him to have that contract if he was a Chief.

We'll see . . . . . .
He's no longer in the drug program, so there's not really much risk of "off the field issues". At least, not more than your average NFL player.
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Old 07-16-2016, 01:59 AM   #144
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I'll give credit where credit is due: Dee is good at getting pressure the same way a dog is good at chasing cars. He just doesn't seem to know what to do once he catches up.
Do you remember how many INTs that DJ dropped that would have ended games? A shitload...at least 6-7. He's seemed to improve when the opportunity presents itself...hopefully Ford can curtail his tendency to over-pursue...but at least he's getting there.
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Clean sack that would have pretty much ended the game was negat ed d by one of the most bogus calls i have ever seen.
I missed that game last year...just watched what you were talking about. That was some seriously bogus officiating...all slighted to Denver's advantage at critical junctures. Even fans that hate the Patriots were crying foul in the comment section. When you look at all the breaks that magically went their way last season...independently it seems like an anomaly. When you patch them together it becomes uncanny...

Patriot kicker, one of the best, misses an extra point...the first in years. Denver wins by two points while Brady magically ignores a wide-open Gronk to tie. How does Brady ignore a wide-open Gronk? JC's fumble, S. Smith's drop, Cleveland's INT...

11 wins by 7 or less points....which means a play or two decided the outcome. All victories...never been done in history.

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Old 07-16-2016, 08:04 AM   #146
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Not almost.

Well the sack has only been an officially recorded statistic for like 30 years. There may have been someone pre-1982 that had more. Who knows..
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:29 AM   #147
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It would have ended the game on 2nd down? Interesting.
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Old 07-16-2016, 10:26 AM   #150
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I missed that game last year...just watched what you were talking about. That was some seriously bogus officiating...all slighted to Denver's advantage at critical junctures. Even fans that hate the Patriots were crying foul in the comment section. When you look at all the breaks that magically went their way last season...independently it seems like an anomaly. When you patch them together it becomes uncanny...

Patriot kicker, one of the best, misses an extra point...the first in years. Denver wins by two points while Brady magically ignores a wide-open Gronk to tie. How does Brady ignore a wide-open Gronk? JC's fumble, S. Smith's drop, Cleveland's INT...

11 wins by 7 or less points....which means a play or two decided the outcome. All victories...never been done in history.
And the Super Bowl? The league MVP starts suddenly throwing balls 5 yards over the heads of receivers on a majority of plays? If you saw the sick look on Newton's face after the game, that wasn't feeling bad about a game. That was guilt and angst about something entirely different. It's clear that Newton was forced to throw the game.

The good news for the Patriots and Panthers is that I'm sure they'll both get Super Bowls soon. Brady will get his as soon as he announces his last season, and Newton will get his during an otherwise slow NFL season since the Panthers are a small-market team.
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