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****OFFICIAL Walterfootball.com Mock Draft Thread****

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17. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs currently aren't getting any pressure on the quarterback. That's obviously because Justin Houston is out, but Dee Ford, starting in his place, has done nothing. Tamba Hali doesn't have much longer remaining as a pro, so the Chiefs will need to find a suitable replacement for him.


49. Anthony Walker, ILB, Northwestern

The Chiefs could spend a second-day selection on an inside linebacker, given that Derrick Johnson is nearing retirement.
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:31 PM   #61
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Interesting that Pat Mahomes went in the top 10 to the Bills.
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:32 PM   #62
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Does anyone expect Nelson to be demonstrably better than Whitehair?

And while Whitehair was a good player for the Bears this year, he made ****-all of a difference. They're pretty much the absolute last spot on the field where I truly care about having an outstanding player.

The problem this year wasn't actually our starting LG - Ehinger played much better than I expected and definitely showed starter potential. And LDT has been a good player as well; not amazing but pretty good.

So who are you looking to bury? And you're willing to use a 1st rounder on the least important position on the field to do so.

Man, I just cannot get there at all. You don't use 1st round picks on interior line depth. That's the kind of dumb-ass argument that Direkshun kept trying to make when he wanted us to take Cameron Erving who, y'know, sucks. The upgrade from LDT or Ehinger to Nelson isn't going to be enough to justify that kind of draft capital, especially not in a draft that is absolutely loaded.

I see a shitload of guys falling into the mid-2nd that would be 1st rounders in a lot of years. This is a great draft. Taking a G is just a bad use of draft resources, IMO.
Basing my decision off of how the draft went in that mock....I'd be looking to trade down again this year. There isn't really anyone I'd like at that pick.
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I am WHOLLY opposed to trading back this year unless it's yielding us additional first day picks NEXT year.

There aren't as many roster spots available as we have draft picks already.

There are a bunch of guys that come off the board in the early 20s that I'd love to have and a few guys still there at 30 that I'd be fine with. Based on that draft, I'd be looking to move up for Cunningham, Brantley or Peppers than move back. Though I'll admit that Peppers would require we make some changes to the scheme that may not work for him. I don't think he can put on the weight he'd need for a 3-4 ILB; may be a kid that can only play 4-3 SAM.

But if he's Deone Buchannon (and he might be), we can find a way to make him a difference maker here, IMO.
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I am WHOLLY opposed to trading back this year unless it's yielding us additional first day picks NEXT year.

There aren't as many roster spots available as we have draft picks already.

There are a bunch of guys that come off the board in the early 20s that I'd love to have and a few guys still there at 30 that I'd be fine with. Based on that draft, I'd be looking to move up for Cunningham, Brantley or Peppers than move back. Though I'll admit that Peppers would require we make some changes to the scheme that may not work for him. I don't think he can put on the weight he'd need for a 3-4 ILB; may be a kid that can only play 4-3 SAM.

But if he's Deone Buchannon (and he might be), we can find a way to make him a difference maker here, IMO.
Trade up for Kizer.
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I am WHOLLY opposed to trading back this year unless it's yielding us additional first day picks NEXT year.

There aren't as many roster spots available as we have draft picks already.

There are a bunch of guys that come off the board in the early 20s that I'd love to have and a few guys still there at 30 that I'd be fine with. Based on that draft, I'd be looking to move up for Cunningham, Brantley or Peppers than move back. Though I'll admit that Peppers would require we make some changes to the scheme that may not work for him. I don't think he can put on the weight he'd need for a 3-4 ILB; may be a kid that can only play 4-3 SAM.

But if he's Deone Buchannon (and he might be), we can find a way to make him a difference maker here, IMO.
More picks means more chances to get it right. Only fools think that it's smart to give away draft picks because there's "no room" on the roster.

Remember when the Saints traded their entire draft for Ricky Williams?
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The "other" writer at WF.com put up his mock draft. Only 3 rounds.

30. Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

The Chiefs grab a third receiver to team with Jeremy Maclin and Tyreek Hill.

As a senior, Davis amassed 97 receptions for 1,500 yards and 19 touchdowns. Sources say the 6-foot-3, 205-pound Davis is long and athletic. He has impressed evaluators with good route-running, hands and deceptive speed. They like his run-after-the-catch skills and size.

Davis was banged up somewhat in 2015, but still produced, totaling 90 receptions for 1,436 yards with 12 touchdowns. In 2014, Davis was excellent with 78 catches for 1,408 yards and 15 touchdowns. He had quality production as a freshman as well (67-941-6).

62. T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin

The Chiefs could use a young understudy behind Tamba Hali.

Watt was one of the breakout players of the 2016 season. He is good at setting the edge in run defense and also is a terror in the pass rush off the edge. Watt had 63 tackles with 15.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks, four passes batted, and two forced fumbles in 2016. The 6-foot-5, 243-pounder could be even better as he gains experience. T.J. Watt is the younger brother of the Texans' J.J. Watt and the Chargers' Derek Watt.

94. Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State

The Chiefs could use a young linebacker to pair with and eventually take over for Derrick Johnson.

In 2016, McMillan was solid for Ohio State with 201 tackles, seven for a loss, two sacks, four passes broken up and two forced fumbles. The 6-foot-2, 240-pounder played well in 2015, totaling 119 tackles with 1.5 sacks and four passes broken up on the year. As a freshman in 2014, he played a lot for Ohio State and totaled 54 tackles with 2.5 sacks and a pick-six.

McMillan is a tough defender who has the skill set to be a three-down starter in the NFL. However right now, he struggles in pass coverage and needs to improve his ability to drop into coverage. McMillan is a physical, tough run defender at the point of attack.
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There's a big value at CB and OLB in the late first round. Those are 2 of the 5 most important positions on the field and we've had issues there with depth this year.

Imagine loading up there? I'm just sayin
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The "other" writer at WF.com put up his mock draft. Only 3 rounds.

30. Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

The Chiefs grab a third receiver to team with Jeremy Maclin and Tyreek Hill.

As a senior, Davis amassed 97 receptions for 1,500 yards and 19 touchdowns. Sources say the 6-foot-3, 205-pound Davis is long and athletic. He has impressed evaluators with good route-running, hands and deceptive speed. They like his run-after-the-catch skills and size.

Davis was banged up somewhat in 2015, but still produced, totaling 90 receptions for 1,436 yards with 12 touchdowns. In 2014, Davis was excellent with 78 catches for 1,408 yards and 15 touchdowns. He had quality production as a freshman as well (67-941-6).

62. T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin

The Chiefs could use a young understudy behind Tamba Hali.

Watt was one of the breakout players of the 2016 season. He is good at setting the edge in run defense and also is a terror in the pass rush off the edge. Watt had 63 tackles with 15.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks, four passes batted, and two forced fumbles in 2016. The 6-foot-5, 243-pounder could be even better as he gains experience. T.J. Watt is the younger brother of the Texans' J.J. Watt and the Chargers' Derek Watt.

94. Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State

The Chiefs could use a young linebacker to pair with and eventually take over for Derrick Johnson.

In 2016, McMillan was solid for Ohio State with 201 tackles, seven for a loss, two sacks, four passes broken up and two forced fumbles. The 6-foot-2, 240-pounder played well in 2015, totaling 119 tackles with 1.5 sacks and four passes broken up on the year. As a freshman in 2014, he played a lot for Ohio State and totaled 54 tackles with 2.5 sacks and a pick-six.

McMillan is a tough defender who has the skill set to be a three-down starter in the NFL. However right now, he struggles in pass coverage and needs to improve his ability to drop into coverage. McMillan is a physical, tough run defender at the point of attack.
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Would love Watt and McMillan in the 2nd and 3rd.

McMillan can't truly 'take over' for Johnson but he can help this run defense significantly in our base sets.

As for the 1st rounder - nah. Not sure what direction I'd go but it wouldn't be WR. Kelce needs to get 130 targets next year. Hill needs to be around 100. Maclin around 80, Conley's earned 80 of his own. You figure the RBs are good for another 100, #2TE and FB good for about 50 between them.

We're already up to 540 targets there. I'd be fine with a developmental WR coming in to eventually replace Maclin's 80 or so targets but I don't think I'd use a first rounder on him.

A more explosive RB would be more useful to this offense than a WR would be. Ware's clearly a JAG. He takes what's blocked and nothing more. He's not a threat in the passing game and he's not a true home run hitter. If I'm looking at a skill position guy, I'd have to think long and hard about grabbing a RB.
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The other writer has updated his mock again.

27. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt

The Chiefs grab a young understudy for the aging Derrick Johnson who is coming off a serious injury.

In 2016, Cunningham totaled 125 tackles with 16.5 for a loss, three passes batted and one forced fumble. The 6-foot-4, 230-pounder is a quick, instinctive linebacker who is a reliable tackler. He is a versatile player with the skill set to be a three-down starter in the NFL. There has been buzz about Cunningham in scouting circles, and teams are giving him late first-round/early second-round grades.

In 2015, Cunningham totaled 103 tackles with 16.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks, three passes batted and four forced fumbles on the year. He was only a redshirt sophomore that season and has upside to develop.

59. Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson

The Chiefs could use a young corner to form a tandem with Marcus Peters.

Tankersley recorded 47 tackles, four interceptions and 10 passes broken up in 2016. The 6-foot-1, 195-pounder has the size and coverage skills to be an first-rounder. In 2015, Tankersley was part of a tough cornerback duo for Clemson with Mackensie Alexander, showing impressive ball skills by racking up five interceptions and nine passes broken up. Tankersley also had 48 tackles.

91. DeDe Westbrook, WR, Oklahoma

The Chiefs grab another wide receiver to work off of Jeremy Maclin.

In 2016, Westbrook was a clutch receiver for Oklahoma in 2016 with 80 receptions for 1,524 yards with 17 touchdowns. The 6-foot, 175-pounder is very slight for the NFL and needs to add weight in order to hold up. He could fit as a speedy slot receiver. As a junior, Westbrook had 46 catches for 743 yards and four scores.
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Seems alot of pundits are picking ILB for KC.

Rob Rang and Dane Brugler went with Raekwon McMillan and Jarrad Davis respectively in their 1/25 updates.
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Seems alot of pundits are picking ILB for KC.

Rob Rang and Dane Brugler went with Raekwon McMillan and Jarrad Davis respectively in their 1/25 updates.
Pundits have been getting Dorsey wrong since he got here. They all act like he's going to reach for need.

They were doing it with WR in the Peters draft when they were sure he was going to take Cameron Ervin or Jaelen Strong. In the Ford draft they had us on Bitonio and Kouandijo. Last year it was Boyd or Alexander.

Dorsey would obviously prefer it when need meets BPA, but he's shown repeatedly that if he doesn't see a 'value' at a position when he picks in the first day or two, he's just not going to go with that position. He's very much a BPA general manager. And while that includes fit/need, those aren't his overriding concerns.

McMillan will not be the pick in the 1st round. He just won't do it. McMillan isn't a 1st round talent and it would be a massive departure from Dorsey to reach for him just because of his position. I could see Davis as the pick but there's also a chance he doesn't last that long. Personally, I still see him as being taken about 15 picks too early there but others almost certainly disagree and Dorsey could be among them.

He will not reach for need.
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The "other" writer at WF.com put up his mock draft. Only 3 rounds.

30. Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

The Chiefs grab a third receiver to team with Jeremy Maclin and Tyreek Hill.

As a senior, Davis amassed 97 receptions for 1,500 yards and 19 touchdowns. Sources say the 6-foot-3, 205-pound Davis is long and athletic. He has impressed evaluators with good route-running, hands and deceptive speed. They like his run-after-the-catch skills and size.

Davis was banged up somewhat in 2015, but still produced, totaling 90 receptions for 1,436 yards with 12 touchdowns. In 2014, Davis was excellent with 78 catches for 1,408 yards and 15 touchdowns. He had quality production as a freshman as well (67-941-6).

62. T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin

The Chiefs could use a young understudy behind Tamba Hali.

Watt was one of the breakout players of the 2016 season. He is good at setting the edge in run defense and also is a terror in the pass rush off the edge. Watt had 63 tackles with 15.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks, four passes batted, and two forced fumbles in 2016. The 6-foot-5, 243-pounder could be even better as he gains experience. T.J. Watt is the younger brother of the Texans' J.J. Watt and the Chargers' Derek Watt.

94. Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State

The Chiefs could use a young linebacker to pair with and eventually take over for Derrick Johnson.

In 2016, McMillan was solid for Ohio State with 201 tackles, seven for a loss, two sacks, four passes broken up and two forced fumbles. The 6-foot-2, 240-pounder played well in 2015, totaling 119 tackles with 1.5 sacks and four passes broken up on the year. As a freshman in 2014, he played a lot for Ohio State and totaled 54 tackles with 2.5 sacks and a pick-six.

McMillan is a tough defender who has the skill set to be a three-down starter in the NFL. However right now, he struggles in pass coverage and needs to improve his ability to drop into coverage. McMillan is a physical, tough run defender at the point of attack.
Replace Davis with Mahomes.
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Replace Davis with Mahomes.
They have Mahomes going top 12.
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They have Mahomes going top 12.
Yeah, I've messed with several mock sites and MANY of them have every damn QB on the board gone by 12.

If Mahomes is gone by 12, we simply don't have the ammunition to get up that high. We can start knocking on doors around 16 but getting up higher than that is talking about a 1st this year, a 1st next year, a 2nd this year and maybe even a 2nd next year. We're gutting the top half of 2 drafts to take a flyer on a guy that would've been the 5th best prospect in next year's draft class.

And I hate hate HATE that rationale - it seems that it's always 'next year's class is better' until that year gets there and suddenly it isn't anymore. But I don't think you can justify that kind of draft capital.

If we could include Smith or Foles to ease the sting and perhaps provide value to a QB needy team that doesn't love what they see in this year's prospects, that would make it tenable. But I just don't know that we can pull it off otherwise.

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A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
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