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Old 12-13-2017, 12:34 PM   #19021
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I did like Lynch. Staylor and media people like Matt Miller were right that he was a moron.

Patrick Mahomes is better suited for success than Paxton Lynch. He did more at the LOS in college, as well as calling/changing plays which Paxton did not do at Memphis.

Patrick also has Andy Reid coaching him...a proven QB guru.

Wanna guess part of the reason why Carson Wentz looks so good? Philly is running the exact same offense as we are. It's Andy Reid's playbook and it's extremely QB friendly.
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Old 12-13-2017, 12:40 PM   #19022
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What's funny is a lot of the people giving me shit for Lynch, LOVED him before Denver drafted him.
Yea I liked the tape a lot initially, but I clearly said that after hearing him talk and seeing his Wonderlic that he was a ****ing moron. You idiots just assumed it was because the Broncos drafted him.
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:22 PM   #19023
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Yea I liked the tape a lot initially, but I clearly said that after hearing him talk and seeing his Wonderlic that he was a ****ing moron. You idiots just assumed it was because the Broncos drafted him.
So scoring an 18 instead of a 24 on the Wonderlic made you drop him from perennial playoff QB/HOF'er to a bust? Overnight?

Ok.
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:30 PM   #19024
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So scoring an 18 instead of a 24 on the Wonderlic made you drop him from perennial playoff QB/HOF'er to a bust? Overnight?

Ok.
In today’s NFL/CFB, the chances of a stupid QB making the jump are slim to none. If Lynch even had Big Ben’s brain he might be able to take advantage of his physical tools. You can sit there and question my motives all you want, but the fact remains that I was right when I said he was too stupid to make it as an NFL QB.

Also, I clearly said hearing him speak factored into my change of heart too. The combination of the two completely changed my gut feeling that I had after watching the tape.

If Mahomes were an idiot, I wouldnt be nearly as confident in him either.
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:36 PM   #19025
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I did like Lynch. Staylor and media people like Matt Miller were right that he was a moron.

Patrick Mahomes is better suited for success than Paxton Lynch. He did more at the LOS in college, as well as calling/changing plays which Paxton did not do at Memphis.

Patrick also has Andy Reid coaching him...a proven QB guru.

Wanna guess part of the reason why Carson Wentz looks so good? Philly is running the exact same offense as we are. It's Andy Reid's playbook and it's extremely QB friendly.
If Reid is such a QB whisperer why has he stuck by alice for so long? Anyone can design an O where the QB can throw the ball quickly to the LOS. It is designing the downfield stuff and having his QB execute it which separates the men from the boys.

Mahhomes has a great arm and can move around in the pocket, time will tell if he can do it consistently enough at the NFL level. Hitting on a QB draft pick is so hard the chefs haven't even bothered drafting one in foreverS. He will have his moments, even Trevor looks good at times. Will Mmahomes be able to protect the ball as well as alice is going to the big question. Guys with big arms throw lots of INT's because they have the balls to try to fit it in anywhere, unlike alice, but your team needs to win the turnover battle to win games. That would be my concern with starting a 1st time starter next year.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:16 PM   #19026
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If Reid is such a QB whisperer why has he stuck by alice for so long? Anyone can design an O where the QB can throw the ball quickly to the LOS. It is designing the downfield stuff and having his QB execute it which separates the men from the boys.

Mahhomes has a great arm and can move around in the pocket, time will tell if he can do it consistently enough at the NFL level. Hitting on a QB draft pick is so hard the chefs haven't even bothered drafting one in foreverS. He will have his moments, even Trevor looks good at times. Will Mmahomes be able to protect the ball as well as alice is going to the big question. Guys with big arms throw lots of INT's because they have the balls to try to fit it in anywhere, unlike alice, but your team needs to win the turnover battle to win games. That would be my concern with starting a 1st time starter next year.


Though there is a risk, there is WAY more reward with a QB that has balls, than one that plays it safe. Give me a gun slinger who plays to WIN over a guy who plays not-to-lose any day. Especially if I have a coach who has coached guys like that in the past. This is a no brainer.
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If Reid is such a QB whisperer why has he stuck by alice for so long? Anyone can design an O where the QB can throw the ball quickly to the LOS. It is designing the downfield stuff and having his QB execute it which separates the men from the boys.

Mahhomes has a great arm and can move around in the pocket, time will tell if he can do it consistently enough at the NFL level. Hitting on a QB draft pick is so hard the chefs haven't even bothered drafting one in foreverS. He will have his moments, even Trevor looks good at times. Will Mmahomes be able to protect the ball as well as alice is going to the big question. Guys with big arms throw lots of INT's because they have the balls to try to fit it in anywhere, unlike alice, but your team needs to win the turnover battle to win games. That would be my concern with starting a 1st time starter next year.
If only Reid were the QB whisperer you are here. This is a solid, understandable, logical take.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:29 PM   #19028
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What's funny is a lot of the people giving me shit for Lynch, LOVED him before Denver drafted him.
I didn't love Lynch. That was a joke post to O.City, who was with me on Geno Smith until he thought he was being smart by saying, "Yeah, but what if Sheldon Richardson?" When the Chiefs didn't draft Geno, he crowed about how smart he was for seeing Sheldon before anybody else.
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Old 12-13-2017, 03:38 PM   #19029
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The farthest Allen will drop is the Bridgewater, Manziel, Lynch range, IMO. And if his shoulder checks out and he participates in the Senior Bowl he could be a top 10 pick.
Give me a break, dude. The only thing separating Josh Allen from Tyler Bray is Allen has behaved himself on and off the field and in the locker room.

He's an arm with a little bit of athleticism. He's not poised, confident, or much of a leader. He's not very accurate. He's got 21 INTs and a piss poor record in which Wyoming has lost to a ton of teams they should have beaten.

He has given teams ZERO reason to believe he will have any chance of reaching his high potential based on what he's done in 2017. That's what happened to Tyler Bray, too.

Wanna bet Allen drops out of the 1st round?
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If Reid is such a QB whisperer why has he stuck by alice for so long? Anyone can design an O where the QB can throw the ball quickly to the LOS. It is designing the downfield stuff and having his QB execute it which separates the men from the boys.

Mahhomes has a great arm and can move around in the pocket, time will tell if he can do it consistently enough at the NFL level. Hitting on a QB draft pick is so hard the chefs haven't even bothered drafting one in foreverS. He will have his moments, even Trevor looks good at times. Will Mmahomes be able to protect the ball as well as alice is going to the big question. Guys with big arms throw lots of INT's because they have the balls to try to fit it in anywhere, unlike alice, but your team needs to win the turnover battle to win games. That would be my concern with starting a 1st time starter next year.
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Wanna bet Allen drops out of the 1st round?
If he goes to the Senior Bowl I'll make a bet.
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I like the Denver Sports media. I really do but no one has told them this and Cousins is what the local Denver media wants as the quarterback, so they can cover him.
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I did like Lynch. Staylor and media people like Matt Miller were right that he was a moron.

Patrick Mahomes is better suited for success than Paxton Lynch. He did more at the LOS in college, as well as calling/changing plays which Paxton did not do at Memphis.

Patrick also has Andy Reid coaching him...a proven QB guru.

Wanna guess part of the reason why Carson Wentz looks so good? Philly is running the exact same offense as we are. It's Andy Reid's playbook and it's extremely QB friendly.
I don't know if "was" is the right word. Carson Wentz also played in a pro-style offense in college. The spread offense read option quarterbacks that come out of college are not pro ready. If you're going to start one immediately then you have to incorporate things that they did in college while you're incorporating pro-style stuff they need to learn. It's a difficult transition. Add on to Lynch that he never played from under Center one read and go in Memphis, he's a 2 to 3 year project to even get up to speed. And that's why my QB hating Bronco brethren in are impatiently dumb.

And that's why they want the Quick Fix with a guy like Cousins or Drew Brees or Andrew Luck. They don't have the patience to develop a quarterback in a quarterback starved League.

This applies to all fan bases really. You want the quick fix for the big season so you get the high expectations and meltdown when they don't come to pass. If you're developing a QB the expectations of great success are probably expectations that aren't going to be met.
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Elway has had 2 seasons to develop a QB. 3 QB's that he's drafted have not worked out.

The time for developing a QB is over.
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