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Old 05-01-2013, 08:02 PM  
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Why Geno Smith fell in the draft

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

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On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.

Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group – his agents included – were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.

The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft.

"I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches … he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."

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One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.

"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."

Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.

"Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.

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By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.

"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:03 PM   #2
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Geno didn't 'fall' in the draft. He got drafted where he should have...
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:04 PM   #3
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Sounds like the bills are justifying passing on him so their fan base won't get pissy
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:04 PM   #4
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Unreal. This guy strutted around like he had "arrived" already.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:05 PM   #5
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Must have been his ex-agent putting this out lol.


Sources sources sources lol.


Dan Patrick had a good segment on "Sources". This could be easily an enemy of him trying to make him look bad. Don't believe everything you hear, especially from sources lol.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:05 PM   #6
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It does seem a bit ironic in that this comes out the day after he fires his agents. Oh well, he's not a Chief, he's in NY.

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:07 PM   #7
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:07 PM   #8
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Sounds like the bills are justifying passing on him so their fan base won't get pissy
Yea that's exactly how it reads......
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:07 PM   #9
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He fell because he's Geno Smith.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:09 PM   #10
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Turns out he's a spoiled little bitch. Hindsight being 50/50, I'm glad we did'nt get him
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:10 PM   #11
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"chiefs pass on marino because he wears t-shirt"


whew

risk avoided...whew!
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:11 PM   #12
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You guys are really feeding into this lol.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:11 PM   #13
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
same here. he's gonna bust
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"chiefs pass on marino because he wears t-shirt"


whew

risk avoided...whew!
That comparison shows how much of a ****ing reerun you really are.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:13 PM   #15
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That comparison shows how much of a ****ing reerun you really are.
hey, mr. wrong about everything, we passed on a QB again...as you wanted, you should be happy

your multi-decade plan of avoiding risk has been a rousing success...
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