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Old 10-23-2014, 06:21 AM  
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Let's discuss the Royals pitchers hitting @AT&T park
Definately seems like it will work against us. So do we have any pitchers that are good hitters? So they just try and bunt every time?

How good of hitters are the Giants pitchers?

Ned Yost strategy here? He at least has experience managing in the NL



Discuss please......
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:31 AM   #46
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What was intended was that every hitter in the lineup is a credible batter. In college and every lower level, that is still the case. In the very old days of baseball, that was the case.

They NEVER intended to have a useless gimp at the plate who was so overmatched and sucked so badly at his level, that you had to manage around it.

The way "baseball" is played in the NL is a twisted version of the game. The AL is more pure, I would argue more traditional, and closer to how the game is meant to be played. Our starting 9 against yours.
I like this point and will incorporate it into my standard "Pitchers no longer are asked or allowed to work on hitting" talking point regarded the DH and NL.

If pitchers are credible hitters, the NL game is a lot more fun to watch. But that ship sailed into the sunset long, long ago.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:06 AM   #47
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Exactly. Then why sacrifice potentially giving away runs on D, when you have one of the best MLB OF's available to play off your bench. THAT and Aoki's post season numbers in 34 AB's are awful .206/.282/.206 So, how much are we really sacrificing on O? I'll take Dyson's speed and D, please.
Gotta side with Ned, man. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Dyson is a deadly late game option on the base paths, by the way. I like how he's doing it, and Aoki is still a better hitter than Dyson, even though he is quite streaky.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:31 AM   #48
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Aoki has been a turd in the WS thus far. At least when he was hitting, he had value. Now he's suddenly gone back to pre-August Aoki-san.

The only suggestion I've heard that even merits repeating is moving Hosmer to RF. The problem with that is that you sacrifice defense in RF AND 1B to do it. Keep your defense in tact. And I strongly consider Dyson in CF/Cain in RF for games 3 and 4 and then play Aoki against Bumgarner.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:54 AM   #52
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Exactly. Then why sacrifice potentially giving away runs on D, when you have one of the best MLB OF's available to play off your bench. THAT and Aoki's post season numbers in 34 AB's are awful .206/.282/.206 So, how much are we really sacrificing on O? I'll take Dyson's speed and D, please.
The idea is that you need as much offense as possible in the early innings so you can get that lead going into the 6th. Aoki's avg. may not be great, but he's been solid. He puts the bat on the ball and gives you that sacrifice fly to score a run when you a need it. Dyson doesn't really do that well.

Once you get that lead then you beef up the defense just a little bit since you know that with your bullpen you won't need to worry about the offense anymore in this game.

It's worked all year long. No need to change it now.
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What was intended was that every hitter in the lineup is a credible batter. In college and every lower level, that is still the case. In the very old days of baseball, that was the case.

They NEVER intended to have a useless gimp at the plate who was so overmatched and sucked so badly at his level, that you had to manage around it.

The way "baseball" is played in the NL is a twisted version of the game. The AL is more pure, I would argue more traditional, and closer to how the game is meant to be played. Our starting 9 against yours.
Like I said, I'm for the DH. The modern game is as it is.

But, if it was intended that every hitter was credible, the solution would be to make the bad hitter better, not to say he doesn't have to bat. So it isn't "Our starting 9 against yours" at all.
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How good of hitters are the Giants pitchers?
The issue here has nothing to do with how good Giants pitchers hit in comparison to how good Royals pitchers hit.

The issue here is that Billy Butler (a middle of the order bat), comes out of the lineup for the pitcher. The Giants, as a National League team, are used to this. Their normal lineup is 8 hitters.

The Royals losing Butler is a HUGE advantage for the Giants. HUGE.
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You still don't get why it was funny when you said Shields at a good hitting performance at the K?
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Yes, @ Cardinals.
You still don't get why it was funny when you said Shields at a good hitting performance at the K?
Be nice. I'll take all the bandwagon fans we can get.

By the way Pitchers never hit in AL parks. They use the home teams rules.
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Exactly. Then why sacrifice potentially giving away runs on D, when you have one of the best MLB OF's available to play off your bench. THAT and Aoki's post season numbers in 34 AB's are awful .206/.282/.206 So, how much are we really sacrificing on O? I'll take Dyson's speed and D, please.
Is Aoki really so bad on defense? He had two errors all season. Dyson had 4. It's a harder position, but it's not like Dyson's a Gold Glover.
Aoki is much better at the plate than Dyson. He may be hitting .206, but he's obvisouly a better hitter overall, and Dyson is 0-7 in the playoffs. Alex Gordon's hitting about .170 in the playoffs. We're not going to be benching him. Aoki's not at Dyson's level stealing bases, but he's not slow either. He had 17 SBs.
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Be nice. I'll take all the bandwagon fans we can get.

By the way Pitchers never hit in AL parks. They use the home teams rules.
Why are you telling me? I'm very aware of how it works.
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