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Old 08-24-2014, 03:53 PM  
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**** you guys saying taking a QB in the first solves everything
Bradford's hurt again. He's played above average since he's been drafted. The Rams built around him on O and built a good D in the meantime. **** all of you guys who said drafting a QB solves everything.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:05 AM   #121
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The game has changed over the last decade. It seems like no one here wants to recognize that. The more it has become a passing league, the less having a first round QB seems to matter as far as Superbowls go.
8 of the last 10 Super Bowl winners have been first round quarterbacks you ****ing idiot.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:15 AM   #122
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8 of the last 10 Super Bowl winners have been first round quarterbacks you ****ing idiot.
I never said anything about winning the Superbowl you ****ing idiot. Winning the Superbowl is ****ing hard and I am realistic.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:37 AM   #123
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The game has changed over the last decade. It seems like no one here wants to recognize that. The more it has become a passing league, the less having a first round QB seems to matter as far as Superbowls go.
This makes absolutely no ****ing sense to me.

You are saying since the league is becoming more and more pass happy, that it's less important to try and get one of the best QBs (the guy that passes the ball) in the draft?

What... the... ****... ???
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:49 AM   #124
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:12 AM   #125
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That's 13 out of 48 (27%), a fair number of exceptions to the rule. More than 1 in 4 SBs have been won by QBs who were not playing for the team that drafted them.
Eh, having a great defense is the main exception (and there are only a few of those), which leaves 4 of the last 20, and 2 of those were 17+ years ago.
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:18 AM   #126
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:21 AM   #127
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This makes absolutely no ****ing sense to me.

You are saying since the league is becoming more and more pass happy, that it's less important to try and get one of the best QBs (the guy that passes the ball) in the draft?

What... the... ****... ???
I am saying the game has changed. College has become a passing league too. There are a lot more QBs throwing the ball more effectively than there used to be. Pass attempts are way up league wide in college or pro. Passing records are regularly getting broken in college and pros. Manning will break pro records this year. Murray broke SEC records last year. It's the new norm. The game has changed. There are more guys slinging the rock than ever.

You want to go to the Superbowl? Since 2000, your chances are almost equal if you have a first round QB or a non first round QB.
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:58 AM   #128
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When has this brokedick ever demonstrated that he can be dependably relied on to stay healthy and guide his team to the playoffs and beyond?

The Rams were morons for putting their eggs in this pussy's basket.
This. I said it when he was coming out of OU.
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Old 08-25-2014, 09:02 AM   #129
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Eh, having a great defense is the main exception (and there are only a few of those), which leaves 4 of the last 20, and 2 of those were 17+ years ago.
Fascinating to watch people trying to spin the "Gotta be a home grown 1st round pick" line into some kind of universal truth. The bullshit excuses that come up are always impressive.

Roughly half the SBs have been won by non-first round picks.
Roughly 1/4 of the SBs have been won by QBs who weren't playing for their original teams.


That's just the way it is.
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Old 08-25-2014, 09:11 AM   #131
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**** all of you guys who said drafting a QB solves everything.
Well, you don't quit when you find out you drafted a $#itty one.

Hell, you could have had RGIII...
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Well, you don't quit when you find out you drafted a $#itty one.

Hell, you could have had RGIII...
And still sucked and been stuck with a fragile QB.

RG3 looks worse than he did as a rookie out there.
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This graph is not indicative of first rd QB's in general. Several of those QB's won multiple SB's.


For example, there have been 30 first rd QB's drafted from 2000-2010. I'm not counting the 2011-2014 first rd QB's bc they haven't had proper time to be judged (3 years) and it hurts your argument as none have won a SB.

Only 4 out of 30 QB's in that time frame have won a SB. That's 13%. Now you know just how ****ing hard it is to find a good QB.
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And still sucked and been stuck with a fragile QB.

RG3 looks worse than he did as a rookie out there.
To be fair....yeah.
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This graph is not indicative of first rd QB's in general. Several of those QB's won multiple SB's.


For example, there have been 30 first rd QB's drafted from 2000-2010. I'm not counting the 2011-2014 first rd QB's bc they haven't had proper time to be judged (3 years) and it hurts your argument as none have won a SB.

Only 4 out of 30 QB's in that time frame have won a SB. That's 13%. Now you know just how ****ing hard it is to find a good QB.
Pretty much. Now what's the success rate overall? Figuring in all drafted QBs?
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