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Old 02-20-2014, 01:21 PM  
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2014 NFL Combine schedule: TV channel, online streaming, invite list, workouts and more
By Matt Conner
on Feb 20 2014, 10:12a

he road to the NFL Draft is longer in 2014 than any other offseason given the league's decision to push it back a few weeks to May 8-10. For the next three months, draftniks will circle around prospects like hawks, analyzing their every move and weighing the pros and cons of each player.

The process starts en masse this week with the start of the 2014 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. If you love the Draft, then this is a big week for you.

For those who are new to the NFL Combine, it's a seven-day event broken up into four-day shifts for each position group (quarterbacks to punters). Each group comes to Indy for four days to meet with representatives from each NFL team for medical assessments, interviews and a number of workouts. It's termed the Underwear Olympics for that reason, as teams fall in and out of love with prospects based on 40-yard dash times and vertical leaps.

The quick guide to the CombineNow that you have the basics, let's dive into a little more what's going down this week in Indianapolis.

The Combine workout schedule

Here are the days the actual workouts for each position group:

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight Ends, Offensive Linemen, Special Teams

Sunday, Feb.23: Quarterbacks, Running Backs, Wide Receivers

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive Line, Linebackers

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive Backs

There are four groups of players arriving as shown above. Each group has four days of events.

Day 1: Travel to Indianapolis* ~ Registration ~ Hospital Pre-Exam & X-rays ~ Orientation ~ Interviews

Day 2: Measurements ~ Medical Examinations ~ Media ~ Interviews

Day 3: NFLPA Meeting ~ Psychological Testing ~ PK/ST Workout ~ Bench Press ~ Interviews

Day 4: On-Field Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) ~ Departure from Indianapolis

With the first arrivals coming on Wednesday, that puts the first day of workouts on Saturday.

The players invited

Every top college football player will likely be in attendance in Indianapolis, even if some of the top athletes won't participate in the workouts. The NFL invited over 300 players to attend. Teddy Bridgewater to Jadeveon Clowney, your favorite college players will likely be there.

Who is eligible to be invited to the Combine? Basically, seniors without college eligibility left and those who have declared early.

And how are players selected to the Combine? Read this:

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Participants are determined annually by a Selection Committee. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent twenty-five NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.
You can find the full list of players expected to attend at the bottom of this post. While the list is comprehensive, there are a few players every year who are drafted but didn't get invited to the Combine.

The workouts

The most important one is not a workout -- it's the interview. Teams will have the opportunity to interview players where they'll get about 15 minutes with them. With so little time, the questions have to be precise and all have a purpose.

The second most important item there is getting the medical check-up -- essentially confirming that the player is healthy or checking out previous injuries. Team doctors will want this information so the GMs and coaches can make an informed decision.

Some of the other workouts, via Big Blue View:

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40-yard dash: Measures straight line speed over a distance. Not very important for non-skill position players, but coming from the 40-yard dash is the "10-yard split." That is the time it takes to travel the first 10 yards of the event and gives a measurement as to the player's explosion and first step. Very important for defensive and offensive linemen. Dontari Poe had a 10-yard split of 1.7 at 330 pounds, which is decent for a linebacker.Bruce Irvin at 235 pounds had a 10-yard split of 1.57, which is a good number for a defensive back. Both help push those players into the middle of the first round.

Bench press: Fairly simple, it measures upper body strength. Moreso it shows if you have stayed in good condition over the offseason. Poor numbers here possibly indicate not working hard enough.

Vertical and Broad jump: Another measurement of explosion and lower body strength. Also important for wide receivers and defensive backs to show off their leaping ability.

3-cone drill: Essentially a change of direction drill. Most important for skill position players. Shows off lateral agility and ability to accelerate out of a turn. One of the drills that translates best on the field. A good score in the 3 cone is often a marker for a high draft pick.

20/60-yard shuttles: Shows the ability to come to a complete stop and accelerate. Obviously important for any position and a good score here is indicative of explosion and body control. As you can see, explosion is a big factor here and one that the NFL is keen to see.

Position-specific drills: Each position has specific drills that test for many different attributes. Change of direction and hip swing for defensive backs, hands skills for wide receivers during the "gauntlet," kick slide drills for the offensive linemen, power for the defensive linemen in hitting bag drills and accuracy for quarterbacks in throwing drills.
How do I watch the Combine?

NFL Network will televise some of it.

NFL.com will stream the action.

KCChiefs.com will have full video of Andy Reid and John Dorsey's press conferences but will not stream them live.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:19 PM   #511
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Donald is a goddamn pipe dream now. No way he makes it past the Cowboys.
There is still hope for Easley, though he plays with a little bit less power than Donald.
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Old 02-24-2014, 04:24 PM   #512
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It is as simple as this, Donald is the type of player who doesn't fit certain measurables that talent evaluators use but if you just watch the guy play it removes any doubts or concerns about him. The thing is like Beckham he might very well be off the board @23.
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It is as simple as this, Donald is the type of player who doesn't fit certain measurables that talent evaluators use but if you just watch the guy play it removes any doubts or concerns about him. The thing is like Beckham he might very well be off the board @23.
can you name a player of his size playing in a 3-4 defense? I think scheme fit is important.
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can you name a player of his size playing in a 3-4 defense? I think scheme fit is important.
Allen Bailey, who is projected to start for us in 2014 at this time.
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can you name a player of his size playing in a 3-4 defense? I think scheme fit is important.
Can get yourself in trouble drafting fr scheme fit only. Draft great talented football players and fit your scheme to them.
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Allen Bailey, who is projected to start for us in 2014 at this time.
Allen Bailey has been used as a situational rusher, not an everydown DE. He would need to bulk up to play on 1st down. He is also 6'3'' and has 34" arms, which is nowhere close to Donald. not exactly the same build.

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Can get yourself in trouble drafting fr scheme fit only. Draft great talented football players and fit your scheme to them.
chiefs have already acquired players to fit the scheme of a 3-4 Defense. Are you suggesting that the team get rid of all those guys just to fit a 4-3 for Donald? That would require a rebuild, and the chiefs brass have already stated they are sticking with the 3-4.
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Allen Bailey has been used as a situational rusher, not an everydown DE. He would need to bulk up to play on 1st down. He is also 6'3'' and has 34" arms, which is nowhere close to Donald. not exactly the same build.
Not exactly the same level of technique and tenacity, either.

Bailey actually has started several games for the Chiefs at DE when either DeVito or TJax were down with injury, and he started the game against the Chargers as well.
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chiefs have already acquired players to fit the scheme of a 3-4 Defense. Are you suggesting that the team get rid of all those guys just to fit a 4-3 for Donald? That would require a rebuild, and the chiefs brass have already stated they are sticking with the 3-4.
He's suggesting a hybrid D, which is probably more common in today's NFL than strict 3-4s.
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He's suggesting a hybrid D, which is probably more common in today's NFL than strict 3-4s.
how do you think that will fare against "no huddle" offenses which limit the ability for defenses to substitute?

Also, since he is suggesting a hybrid d, would that make Aaron Donald a role player or a starter? Would you be ok drafting a player in the 1st round who is only playing limited snaps?
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Allen Bailey has been used as a situational rusher, not an everydown DE. He would need to bulk up to play on 1st down. He is also 6'3'' and has 34" arms, which is nowhere close to Donald. not exactly the same build.



chiefs have already acquired players to fit the scheme of a 3-4 Defense. Are you suggesting that the team get rid of all those guys just to fit a 4-3 for Donald? That would require a rebuild, and the chiefs brass have already stated they are sticking with the 3-4.
A total rebuild? Um no. I'm saying you don't pass on highly talented game changing type players because they don't fit a "scheme".

We don't sit in a base 3-4 set every down anyway.

I think Donald is a 43 under tackle but if the chiefs font office thinks he's that talented (he is) they shouldn't hesitate to draft him
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how do you think that will fare against "no huddle" offenses which limit the ability for defenses to substitute?
It makes it easier to defend?

Put athletic football players out there, not just a "pass rusher" or a "run stopper".
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Drafting guys that have to "fit" a sche is how you end up with Tyson Jackson at #3
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It's like if Clowney were there when we pick. He's obviously best suited to play 43 end, but you don't pass in him because of that.

You take him and fit him in your defense
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Drafting guys that have to "fit" a sche is how you end up with Tyson Jackson at #3
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Drafting guys that have to "fit" a sche is how you end up with Tyson Jackson at #3
no. That would be forcing a position (3-4 DE) at a spot. You can still draft the best player available that fits your scheme.

I'm pretty sure the chiefs brass have indicated that they look for scheme fit. For example, they like tall corners.
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