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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:45 PM   #121
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Smith is Trash.

Cooper is Trash.
Bullshit. Smith at worst is average. He was BY FAR our best corner last year. There were games I prayed they'd switch Smith and Flowers cause Flowers was getting burned while Smith was barely targetted.

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Our secondary which was formidable just a few seasons ago has been nerfed into the Warfield/Bartee era.
What season is that? The highest our pass defense has been ranked is 11th since Brandon Flowers was drafted. Other than that, it's been below average.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:46 PM   #122
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Great another rebuild. That makes it what 3 in the last 5 years? This organization is huge POS top to bottom.
I prefer "transition". At least they're not scorching the earth. Did you not think they were going to come in here and make it their own?
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:46 PM   #123
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We're not going to get any compensatory picks for him, either.

Wow.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:46 PM   #124
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Manning and DT set a record at Arrowhead last year the **** is he talking about?
breaking their previously set record?
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And yet both Smith and Cooper performed a lot better than Flowers last year.
Cooper fell to pieces.

I'm tired of hearing about him.

And im sure Mike Catapano is in for a monster season and they shoulda started Powe next to Poe blah blah blah.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:47 PM   #126
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You're irrelevant. I don't give a **** about your list. Who the hell are you for me to care about YOUR list?
The point isn't that my list matters, but that I've actually seen the guys tape and have a valid argument that he's a potential upgrade.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:47 PM   #127
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Owens is the definintion of "Just a Guy". He was a corner in arguably one of the worst defenses of the season last year.

Gaines is a 180lb scrawny CB that they expect to play man against 220lb+ wrs.

Yeah....im sure that's not going to be an uphill climb or anything.
Slot WRs are 220+ pounds?

Cooper and Smith can handle the perimeter with the improved safety play this year (it's already an improvement without the shit-stain Lewis back there). Parker can easily handle slot duties while Gaines works and develops as the 4th corner.
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We're not going to get any compensatory picks for him, either.

Wow.
There it is.

**** compensatory picks.....Jesus.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:47 PM   #129
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Owens is the definintion of "Just a Guy". He was a corner in arguably one of the worst defenses of the season last year.

Gaines is a 180lb scrawny CB that they expect to play man against 220lb+ wrs.

Yeah....im sure that's not going to be an uphill climb or anything.
Gaines is skinny but he's still a physical guy. He'll be fine.
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Owens is the definintion of "Just a Guy". He was a corner in arguably one of the worst defenses of the season last year.

Gaines is a 180lb scrawny CB that they expect to play man against 220lb+ wrs.

Yeah....im sure that's not going to be an uphill climb or anything.
Guess we'll ignore the fact that Brandon Flowers is 5'9 187lbs huh?
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:49 PM   #131
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The point isn't that my list matters, but that I've actually seen the guys tape and have a valid argument that he's a potential upgrade.
Tape?

What his youtube highlights?

Yeah i've seen those too.

The biggest thing that stood out to me was that he doesn't look nearly as fast as what he timed.
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He thumped Welker's ass last year! Where the **** do you get this from????

I mean, Welker is going to get his a few times a game, mang. Is what it is.
You mustn't have been watching the game.
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Cooper fell to pieces.

I'm tired of hearing about him.

And im sure Mike Catapano is in for a monster season and they shoulda started Powe next to Poe blah blah blah.
Cooper fell to pieces so badly that they started him as the #3 corner in the playoff game and he played well. Yeeeaaaa. Also, there's no way he is going to get better, right? I mean, he's already been playing the CB position for what, 3 years now including last season? He's as good as he's ever going to be with that whole 2 years of college experience and 1 year of NFL experience playing the CB position.
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Slot WRs are 220+ pounds?

Cooper and Smith can handle the perimeter with the improved safety play this year (it's already an improvement without the shit-stain Lewis back there). Parker can easily handle slot duties while Gaines works and develops as the 4th corner.
Cooper can't handle the perimeter. He proved that last season. He was good against QB's who telegraphed come back routes.

When a decent QB actually challenged him he went into Bartee mode. Have you forgotten how embarrassed he was?

Owens was brought in to cover the slot, not Gaines.
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You mustn't have been watching the game.
The second game? Yes I ****ing did. Welker = punk-thumped.
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