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Old 11-03-2016, 09:11 PM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 12-03-2016, 12:40 PM   #286
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So Astros sign two guys Royals would have liked to supplement an already solid offense in Reddick and Beltran. Lot of time left, but with Mellingers article, I don't have a good feeling about this offseason.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:44 PM   #287
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So Astros sign two guys Royals would have liked to supplement an already solid offense in Reddick and Beltran. Lot of time left, but with Mellingers article, I don't have a good feeling about this offseason.
So Glass is really going cheap now?
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:49 PM   #288
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So Glass is really going cheap now?
Our payroll right now is relatively high, so it's hard to get too upset I suppose. Just wish we'd go hard at winning to close out this window.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:51 PM   #289
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:57 PM   #290
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The good thing about the Beltran deal is that it was only one year. I don't think we'd go for $17 or 18 million though. The most depressing part of Mellinger's article was that projected opening day payroll is $148 million. I didn't realize it was quite that high.

That might very well be a top 10 payroll. I agree I just don't see Glass signing a guy like Beltran and pushing that to near $170 million. I'm not sure DM would do that either. I could see DM pulling off a Rios-type signing though and maybe getting it to $150-160 million. Since they play this "poor us" card every offseason though, who really knows.
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The payroll is why I'm fully expecting another James Shields type of trade. Dozier and another prospect piece for a #3 starter. In terms of a bat, Moore will likely need to look for the type of high risk, high reward type of player - so exactly what Morales was two years ago.

Morales was coming off a worse season than Butler. No one was enthusiastic about that signing. Moore will need to take a similar gamble here***

***Without resigning Billy plz.
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Old 12-03-2016, 02:50 PM   #292
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Good for Danny. Makes me a little nervous... WBC participation has not been great for pitchers in the recent past. Hopefullly, he gets light work similar to ST.

Winter Meetings open tonight. Should see some action soon. Way I see it, Royals have three options for 2017:

1) Blow out the payroll and add a free agent bat at DH like Matt Holliday, and a SP. I'd be interested to see where Tyson Ross ends up... fairly big risk with him, but he's a big strikeout guy who gets a ton of ground balls. Coming off thoracic outlet surgery, he could be a guy that signs a one-year "prove it" deal. And could make a ton of sense for KC if the bidding doesn't get crazy high.

2) make a trade (or two) that fill other holes from positions of strength. This would require moving someone like Wade Davis or Lorenzo Cain. I don't like the idea of moving both and don't believe you get enough value back from Cain to do it, but Davis, in this market for closers? Yeah.

3) sit pat. Hope that Cain/Hosmer/Moustakas bounce back and improve the offense enough that you're in it at the trade deadline and can add some reinforcements. Hope the fifth spot in the rotation can be answered well enough with Minor/Young/Stahm/Staumont/Zimmer/Junis/etc to follow the same plan.


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Angel Pagan is a name we haven't talked about but who holds some interest for me.

He's old and has had injury issues in the past, but when healthy, he's a quality leadoff option who also switch hits.

Would be an upgrade from Cuthbert as a rotating DH option, could play RF or LF, too. And offer a switch hitting option at the top of the lineup.

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Pagan - DH
Moustakas - 3B
Cain - RF (or swap with Pagan once a week or twice a week)
Hosmer - 1B
Perez - C
Gordon - LF
2B - merrifield
CF - Dyson
SS - Escobar

Against lefties, Dyson sits for Orlando or Dozier.

I like that lineup better with a proven middle of he order guy like Holliday to protect Hosmer and improve the middle of the lineup, but this is a cheaper and more versatile option.

I'd KC does end up trading Cain, Pagan might be a good short-term filler for him.


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Old 12-04-2016, 09:38 AM   #296
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"15. The Royals could deal both closer*Wade Davis*and outfielder*Jarrod Dysonwithin a week. They are looking for controllable starting pitching. Davis will draw plenty of teams, including the Giants, Red Sox, and Blue Jays"
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I wouldn't be surprised if they traded either of those guys but that article suggests a lot of trades that would end up moving some big contracts. Sure paints the Tigers as big sellers.
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KC would have to get a pretty nice piece back to consider moving Dyson. He's cheap and high-value.

Crazy thought: Pair Dyson with a horrible contract you'd like to unload (cough, Soria, cough?).


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