Life Well, Bye, Kansas City... - Page 17

**TinyEvel** · 11:20 PM

Those of you who know me and my story know I am a Southern California born and raised native but picked Chiefs as my NFL team in 1994 after the Montana win in Houston in the AFC divisional playoffs. Stayed a loyal and true Chiefs fan through the years and after finding CP in 2005 began coming out to KC once a year (thanks NZoner) for games.

2015 -- through random happenstance, I had an opportunity to come out here for a job. I did it. I made great progress in this firm, hiring and relocating new talent to KC, championing the boomtown that it is.

A few months ago, through some reorganization, I find myself leaving this firm. Not much opportunity for me any more in KC, so I relocated my family back to the West Coast last week. I must say as a born and raised Californian, the weather and the fitness here in CA, I have to pinch myself that I am lucky to be back here.

I still love KC and will be back for games, but here are a few things I observed after living in an entirely new region for the first time in my life.

1) The people are nice. Like, genuinely nice. It would take me three minutes to get through the grocery checkout just because the cashier would ask how I am doing and make small talk.

2) No traffic. I mean, the Plaza at Christmastime is basically any road in any city in California year-round. Getting from A to B in KC was always a breeze.

3) Season Tickets at Arrowhead are a dream come true. Being able to get to the stadium at 7 am every home game, and feel the rush of the crowd every week...now when I watch the games on TV it will be different. I'll surely miss being there, and the waft of BBQ smoke will be forever emblazoned in my mind.

4) It's a good life if you have very young kids. You can buy a three bedroom home for $150K with great schools. If you have teenage kids, moving here is more tough because most local kids have already bonded with friends.

5) Lots of people are overweight. Not to make a body issue statement but it's unhealthy. I hated myself for judging people there.

6) BUT.... Lots of people are active. I was surprised at how many people are running and playing tennis, etc. The workout here seems to be more for heart health than to be good looking fit, so, glad to see so many people getting out there and getting their heart rate up.

7) Produce goes bad too fast. Buy an avocado, better eat it that day. Same with lettuce. And Citrus. I was shocked how fast those fresh produce go bad.

8) Free parking in KC is a blessing. We just went to a museum in San Francisco, Parking was $24. That was focked. Ludicrous.

9) Fast healthy food is hard to come by in KC. We just ate fresh Mex burritos for lunch and in KC it seems all the fast options are Wendy's or Arby's or Burger King etc. It was an effort to eat fast/cheap/healthy there in KC.

10) The weather. Probably the most significant difference. I didn't mind the winters (many said the past two were mild) but the summers and the sticky heat, that was the worst. Three days here and it's 70 degrees and a cool breeze, that's a million dollar climate, and it cost that much.

11) KC is a boomtown. Look at all the development, there's a ton of opportunity there right now.

12) Body modification: People in KC seem to have a higher level of "fck what other people think" in terms of what they do to their hair/face/skin. As a result you get a lot of questionable tattoos and piercings and haircuts, etc. On one hand, i was appreciative of the diversity, on the other hand, it felt like the human modification version of the bad Charles Jersey I ordered online from China.

13) who the fock am I to say what KC is like or any other place. You be you, Kansas City, that's what makes you special. I'm gonna do me out here. I'll be back to visit and sing your praises in my social media feeds. All day long. Just hide the fat people.

TinyEvel out.

**Bugeater** · 06-15-2017, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Interesting! My price with Home Depot is $5.65 so over a dollar difference. On the Dr. Pepper with Walmart I get the same price, however the product is not in stock and shipping is not available anyways. On the Costco seasoning I also get the same price but it does say prices vary by store.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

1. Salt - My price is $4.14.
2. Soda - My price is $9.38.
3. Spices - My price is $26.99.

Strange how the price of salt varies geographically. That's definitely something to look into when considering relocation.

KCUnited · 06-15-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag

Crazy talk. Where did you go/what did you try?

Pizza Port OB
Belching Beaver OB
Modern Times Point Loma
Rip Current North Park
Fall North Park
Half Door Downtown
Toronado North Park (they have Russian River/Pliny kegs)
Mamut - Tijuana

I couldn't make it up to Alesmith or Alpine like I wanted, but we get some of those distributed here so I was focused on places I don't get to try.

They were fine, high quality West Coast IPAs. They just became a little one-note to me after awhile and hard to differentiate from each other. I prefer a sweeter finish than the super dry west coast finish. It's not a knock, just a personal preference. Granted, I was admittedly suffering from some palate fatigue by the end of the trip.

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Originally Posted by Shag

Half Door is awesome - really cool space. The west coast IPA originated in SD, and is a very hop-forward beer, typically with hop bitterness. The east coast IPA is a craze now, quite often hazy, and much more juice-like flavor with very little bitterness. The east cost variety is fairly recently big - will be interesting to see how it progresses.

Yeah, they've pretty much taken over Chicago. I'm going to a can release later today. I see it getting recognized officially as its own style of IPA in the near future. Because they rely so much on uber-freshness, I don't think we'll ever see them distributed nationally. I think they'll contribute to more of the drink local, brewery only type release thing that's trending now.

Shag · 06-15-2017, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Pizza Port OB
Belching Beaver OB
Modern Times Point Loma
Rip Current North Park
Fall North Park
Half Door Downtown
Toronado North Park (they have Russian River/Pliny kegs)
Mamut - Tijuana

I couldn't make it up to Alesmith or Alpine like I wanted, but we get some of those distributed here so I was focused on places I don't get to try.

They were fine, high quality West Coast IPAs. They just became a little one-note to me after awhile and hard to differentiate from each other. I prefer a sweeter finish than the super dry west coast finish. It's not a knock, just a personal preference. Granted, I was admittedly suffering from some palate fatigue by the end of the trip.

Fair enough, and that's a great list! Thinking back, I believe I may have helped you put it together, lol. What did you think on the whole?

How was the TJ brewery? I haven't made it down there yet.

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Yeah, they've pretty much taken over Chicago. I'm going to a can release later today. I see it getting recognized officially as its own style of IPA in the near future. Because they rely so much on uber-freshness, I don't think we'll ever see them distributed nationally. I think they'll contribute to more of the drink local, brewery only type release thing that's trending now.

They're definitely all the rage right now, and when done right, are delicious. I'm more of a West Coast guy, myself, but I absolutely enjoy a good hazy juice bomb. I love the ultra-local brewery movement right now - gives every city their own stamp on the craft beer scene, and makes traveling that much more fun.

**SAUTO** · 06-15-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I have always wondered if national retailers change the price based on location. But with places like Home Depot people can buy online, so I wonder do they also give different online prices based on location? Or is it the same and they don't inflate based on location? Anyone know?

Auto parts stores prices vary from location to location.
I know that for a fact.

**SAUTO** · 06-15-2017, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

My price for this is $6.80. What's yours? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Morton-Sa...1500/100089553

My price for this is $9.38. What's yours? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dr-Pepper...z-6pk/20854248

My price for this is $26.99. What's yours? https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100047638.html

You could just change your "my store" location and check them yourself

KCUnited · 06-15-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag

Fair enough, and that's a great list! Thinking back, I believe I may have helped you put it together, lol. What did you think on the whole?

How was the TJ brewery? I haven't made it down there yet.

They're definitely all the rage right now, and when done right, are delicious. I'm more of a West Coast guy, myself, but I absolutely enjoy a good hazy juice bomb. I love the ultra-local brewery movement right now - gives every city their own stamp on the craft beer scene, and makes traveling that much more fun.

I think you may have suggested some of those, if so, thanks! Overall, it was great. The SD beer scene and it's vibe was great to experience. Everyone was really cool and knowledgeable. So I hope I'm not coming across as if I didn't enjoy it. I had a lot of really good beers and if I lived in SD year round, that style of IPA would probably be my preference too. Honestly, I think I was the most impressed by the Alesmith .394, but I'm also a baseball fan.

LOL, I took the trolley down and walked into TJ. Never been. It was a trip. Mamut was a cool spot, with a great balcony for people watching. Their beers have a ways to go though, they were kind of a mess, but I like experiencing new stuff like that.

I totally agree with you on the drink local trend. Unfortunately, I think larger mid-sized breweries like Stone that distribute across the country are going to feel the effects of it. They make damn good beers, yet they sit on shelves around here because of all the super fresh local beers.

Shag · 06-15-2017, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

I think you may have suggested some of those, if so, thanks! Overall, it was great. The SD beer scene and it's vibe was great to experience. Everyone was really cool and knowledgeable. So I hope I'm not coming across as if I didn't enjoy it. I had a lot of really good beers and if I lived in SD year round, that style of IPA would probably be my preference too. Honestly, I think I was the most impressed by the Alesmith .394, but I'm also a baseball fan.

LOL, I took the trolley down and walked into TJ. Never been. It was a trip. Mamut was a cool spot, with a great balcony for people watching. Their beers have a ways to go though, they were kind of a mess, but I like experiencing new stuff like that.

Hey, to each their own - love SD or not, was just curious to get your opinion. And .394 is a great beer - probably my go-to if I just want a delicious, easy drinking APA in my fridge.

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I totally agree with you on the drink local trend. Unfortunately, I think larger mid-sized breweries like Stone that distribute across the country are going to feel the effects of it. They make damn good beers, yet they sit on shelves around here because of all the super fresh local beers.

Yeah, the big craft breweries are definitely in a weird spot right now. They really helped create and drive the craft beer movement, but are almost starting to be viewed like Big Beer, which is a shame. They're going to have to find a way to stay relevant in an industry they created.

It's definitely going to be interesting to see what happens across the board. I think we're going to start seeing small breweries create some sort of larger collaborative organizations to combat big beer buying craft breweries, and try and keep their access to raw materials via greater buying power. Breweries like Stone, DFH, Bell's, etc could theoretically help the small breweries in an effort like that, but not sure they'd really benefit, other than good will. I think a lot is going to change in the beer world over the next few years.

**Ming the Merciless** · 06-15-2017, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

1. Salt - My price is $4.14.
2. Soda - My price is $9.38.
3. Spices - My price is $26.99.

this is what mine are too

oh wait its probably the same home depot LOL

**The Franchise** · 06-15-2017, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

this is what mine are too

oh wait its probably the same home depot LOL

Why are you shopping in Fairfield? lol

**Ming the Merciless** · 06-15-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Why are you shopping in Fairfield? lol

aww dammit I keep thinking you are in Petaluma for some weird reason...

I usually go to the Rohnert Park store actually hahaha

GloryDayz · 06-15-2017, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Being near an ocean is nice. Ocean is a must for me. Nice picture.

Lived in beach towns most of my life, don't miss it.

|Zach| · 06-15-2017, 10:30 PM

KC is a great ****in city with a lot going for it. Good luck on the West Coast!

|Zach| · 06-15-2017, 10:39 PM

I enjoy Kansas City almost stubbornly but there are a few places I could uproot if the opportunity came up. I really like Seattle a lot...dig the weather the people are friendly and it is gorgeous. San Francisco is great as well love the weather and love visiting friends there but I will never in my life make enough money to live there. NYC would be cool but again the money thing...there are some neat spots in Maryland as well.

Eureka · 06-16-2017, 12:53 AM

So the consensus is that anywhere in the USA �� is awesome to live?

I thought most on here didn't like Cali though.

06-12-2017, 11:14 PM
TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $5437131	Well, Bye, Kansas City... Those of you who know me and my story know I am a Southern California born and raised native but picked Chiefs as my NFL team in 1994 after the Montana win in Houston in the AFC divisional playoffs. Stayed a loyal and true Chiefs fan through the years and after finding CP in 2005 began coming out to KC once a year (thanks NZoner) for games. 2015 -- through random happenstance, I had an opportunity to come out here for a job. I did it. I made great progress in this firm, hiring and relocating new talent to KC, championing the boomtown that it is. A few months ago, through some reorganization, I find myself leaving this firm. Not much opportunity for me any more in KC, so I relocated my family back to the West Coast last week. I must say as a born and raised Californian, the weather and the fitness here in CA, I have to pinch myself that I am lucky to be back here. I still love KC and will be back for games, but here are a few things I observed after living in an entirely new region for the first time in my life. 1) The people are nice. Like, genuinely nice. It would take me three minutes to get through the grocery checkout just because the cashier would ask how I am doing and make small talk. 2) No traffic. I mean, the Plaza at Christmastime is basically any road in any city in California year-round. Getting from A to B in KC was always a breeze. 3) Season Tickets at Arrowhead are a dream come true. Being able to get to the stadium at 7 am every home game, and feel the rush of the crowd every week...now when I watch the games on TV it will be different. I'll surely miss being there, and the waft of BBQ smoke will be forever emblazoned in my mind. 4) It's a good life if you have very young kids. You can buy a three bedroom home for $150K with great schools. If you have teenage kids, moving here is more tough because most local kids have already bonded with friends. 5) Lots of people are overweight. Not to make a body issue statement but it's unhealthy. I hated myself for judging people there. 6) BUT.... Lots of people are active. I was surprised at how many people are running and playing tennis, etc. The workout here seems to be more for heart health than to be good looking fit, so, glad to see so many people getting out there and getting their heart rate up. 7) Produce goes bad too fast. Buy an avocado, better eat it that day. Same with lettuce. And Citrus. I was shocked how fast those fresh produce go bad. 8) Free parking in KC is a blessing. We just went to a museum in San Francisco, Parking was $24. That was focked. Ludicrous. 9) Fast healthy food is hard to come by in KC. We just ate fresh Mex burritos for lunch and in KC it seems all the fast options are Wendy's or Arby's or Burger King etc. It was an effort to eat fast/cheap/healthy there in KC. 10) The weather. Probably the most significant difference. I didn't mind the winters (many said the past two were mild) but the summers and the sticky heat, that was the worst. Three days here and it's 70 degrees and a cool breeze, that's a million dollar climate, and it cost that much. 11) KC is a boomtown. Look at all the development, there's a ton of opportunity there right now. 12) Body modification: People in KC seem to have a higher level of "fck what other people think" in terms of what they do to their hair/face/skin. As a result you get a lot of questionable tattoos and piercings and haircuts, etc. On one hand, i was appreciative of the diversity, on the other hand, it felt like the human modification version of the bad Charles Jersey I ordered online from China. 13) who the fock am I to say what KC is like or any other place. You be you, Kansas City, that's what makes you special. I'm gonna do me out here. I'll be back to visit and sing your praises in my social media feeds. All day long. Just hide the fat people. TinyEvel out. Last edited by TinyEvel; 06-12-2017 at 11:20 PM..
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06-15-2017, 10:30 PM	#252
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06-15-2017, 10:39 PM	#253
\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5336768	I enjoy Kansas City almost stubbornly but there are a few places I could uproot if the opportunity came up. I really like Seattle a lot...dig the weather the people are friendly and it is gorgeous. San Francisco is great as well love the weather and love visiting friends there but I will never in my life make enough money to live there. NYC would be cool but again the money thing...there are some neat spots in Maryland as well.
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06-16-2017, 12:53 AM	#254
Eureka C Chiefs once a year! Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Cali Casino cash: $2446097	So the consensus is that anywhere in the USA �� is awesome to live? I thought most on here didn't like Cali though.
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