Elite QB's Smith has deafeted the last 4 years

[Titty Meat]

Rodgers
Brady
Wilson
Brees
Rothlisberger
Rivers

Why can't a talented team with Smith compete?

[Mile High Mania]

Alex Smith is a safe QB, his offenses don't turn the ball over, but that's about where the greatness stops.

Since 2009...
- his teams have never finished in the top 20 on pass attempts
- has only once finished in the top 22 passing yards category
- only twice has hit the top 15 finish in TDs

I'm not pointing that out to say it's all about flashy stats, but teams aren't winning because Alex Smith is the QB. He's not doing dumb things to make them lose, but he's not doing anything special to win. He didn't defeat those elite QBs, hell he wasn't even on the field when they were... that's a silly stat.

Smith has been around good RBs and defenses, but can't get teams over the hump because he doesn't have "it".

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Alex Smith is a safe QB, his offenses don't turn the ball over, but that's about where the greatness stops.

Since 2009...
- his teams have never finished in the top 20 on pass attempts
- has only once finished in the top 22 passing yards category
- only twice has hit the top 15 finish in TDs

I'm not pointing that out to say it's all about flashy stats, but teams aren't winning because Alex Smith is the QB. He's not doing dumb things to make them lose, but he's not doing anything special to win. He didn't defeat those elite QBs, hell he wasn't even on the field when they were... that's a silly stat.

Smith has been around good RBs and defenses, but can't get teams over the hump because he doesn't have "it".

Great post

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Alex Smith is a safe QB, his offenses don't turn the ball over, but that's about where the greatness stops.

Since 2009...
- his teams have never finished in the top 20 on pass attempts
- has only once finished in the top 22 passing yards category
- only twice has hit the top 15 finish in TDs

I'm not pointing that out to say it's all about flashy stats, but teams aren't winning because Alex Smith is the QB. He's not doing dumb things to make them lose, but he's not doing anything special to win. He didn't defeat those elite QBs, hell he wasn't even on the field when they were... that's a silly stat.

Smith has been around good RBs and defenses, but can't get teams over the hump because he doesn't have "it".

Your analysis is unfair. Smith didn't get over the hump in 2011 because his team's usual return man missed the game, and the replacement messed up 2 easy plays. If the return man doesn't make those mistakes, Alex Smith is in the Super Bowl, and the 49ers are playing the Patriots for the Lombardi. His failure to get to the SB wasn't because he was missing "it", it was because Kyle Williams couldn't field the ball.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Since 2009...
- his teams have never finished in the top 20 on pass attempts
- has only once finished in the top 22 passing yards category
- only twice has hit the top 15 finish in TDs

Great post.

This is why people who say he's above average are hilarious.

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Alex Smith is a safe QB, his offenses don't turn the ball over, but that's about where the greatness stops.

Since 2009...
- his teams have never finished in the top 20 on pass attempts
- has only once finished in the top 22 passing yards category
- only twice has hit the top 15 finish in TDs

I'm not pointing that out to say it's all about flashy stats, but teams aren't winning because Alex Smith is the QB. He's not doing dumb things to make them lose, but he's not doing anything special to win. He didn't defeat those elite QBs, hell he wasn't even on the field when they were... that's a silly stat.

Smith has been around good RBs and defenses, but can't get teams over the hump because he doesn't have "it".

He's not a great QB or whatever adjective like "it"? Thanks for breaking that news.

But since 2009 rank the approx talent Pass Block+Pass Catching

What offense on do you look back and say 'man Smith really held back a good offense'?

Every season but half of 13 and 12 bad pass protection + this group of studs + coaches tending to play it safe.



How was he not putting up big numbers and TDs?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Your analysis is unfair. Smith didn't get over the hump in 2011 because his team's usual return man missed the game, and the replacement messed up 2 easy plays. If the return man doesn't make those mistakes, Alex Smith is in the Super Bowl, and the 49ers are playing the Patriots for the Lombardi. His failure to get to the SB wasn't because he was missing "it", it was because Kyle Williams couldn't field the ball.

I don't get it:

Tom Brady, and yet this boner of yours for shitty QB's like Cassel and Smith.

Do not understand.

Do not WANT to understand.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

I don't get it:

Tom Brady, and yet this boner of yours for shitty QB's like Cassel and Smith.

Do not understand.

Do not WANT to understand.

You misunderstand my position on players like Cassel and A. Smith, that's all. That puts you in good company around here, I'm sure.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You misunderstand my position on players like Cassel and A. Smith, that's all. That puts you in good company around here, I'm sure.

Oh, I think I understand.....

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Oh, I think I understand.....

No. I just try to see the difference in guys who need a little help/a fair amount of help/lots of help/a ****ing miracle. This board's largely become poisoned against all but those QBs who'd fall into the first category. The problem with taking such a position is that there are fewer than a handful of those QBs at any one time in the NFL.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Your analysis is unfair. Smith didn't get over the hump in 2011 because his team's usual return man missed the game, and the replacement messed up 2 easy plays. If the return man doesn't make those mistakes, Alex Smith is in the Super Bowl, and the 49ers are playing the Patriots for the Lombardi. His failure to get to the SB wasn't because he was missing "it", it was because Kyle Williams couldn't field the ball.

.. and if Bowe keeps his 2nd foot in bounds, there is a different, more positive buzz about the QB that Smith is. It's really that simple. If Kyle Williams and Bowe each make a play expected of them, then Smith is seen in a much better light.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/3...-the-offensive

OL plays better. Pass offense can open up.

It's a 2-way street. OL has to play much better. They weren't good last year.

But Smith has to spot the blitz pickup and the hot read. He can't keep double clutching because a guy isn't wide the **** open. He has to open up the offense so the defense isn't crowding the short stuff. His OL end of 2013 was terrible too. PFF will chalk that up to magical blocking improvement, but I don't buy it. Smith's mentality during those games was completely different. The QB absolutely has ability to improve the protection in ways PFF can't see.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It's a 2-way street. OL has to play much better. They weren't good last year.

But Smith has to spot the blitz pickup and the hot read. He can't keep double clutching because a guy isn't wide the **** open. He has to open up the offense so the defense isn't crowding the short stuff. His OL end of 2013 was terrible too. PFF will chalk that up to magical blocking improvement, but I don't buy it. Smith's mentality during those games was completely different. The QB absolutely has ability to improve the protection in ways PFF can't see.

If I see Smith step in and throw short and quick over the middle this year, I may literally shit myself in disbelief.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Alex Smith is a safe QB, his offenses don't turn the ball over, but that's about where the greatness stops.

Since 2009...
- his teams have never finished in the top 20 on pass attempts
- has only once finished in the top 22 passing yards category
- only twice has hit the top 15 finish in TDs

I'm not pointing that out to say it's all about flashy stats, but teams aren't winning because Alex Smith is the QB. He's not doing dumb things to make them lose, but he's not doing anything special to win. He didn't defeat those elite QBs, hell he wasn't even on the field when they were... that's a silly stat.

Smith has been around good RBs and defenses, but can't get teams over the hump because he doesn't have "it".

Look at the surrounding talent. Alex is as good as his team, and his offense was never that great.

When Vernon Davis is your only legit passing weapon you're not going to have great stats or throw the ball that often.

Look at all the WR's he's played with since 2005. Bottom of the barrel for sure.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The top 5 QBs of this 'generation' are Brady, P. Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger and Rodgers. Between them, they have 9 of the last 14 SB wins, and at least one of them has appeared in 12 of the last 14 SBs.

Finally, a post I can agree with.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I wish we had a Rapeliss.

He isn't always on, except when it's time to be on.