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Old 07-25-2012, 06:35 PM  
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Somebody's gotta have the inside scoop on Google Fiber launching tomorrow..??

https://fiber.google.com/savethedate/

Live broadcast over YouTube tomorrow. Anybody have any early news on this? Will it be available all over the Metro? How long will the waiting list be?

Anybody know anything? I'm impatient.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:35 AM   #346
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Congressional lobbying should be done away with.
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'buying' votes is NOT a form of free speech, it's a legal form of bribery
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:43 AM   #347
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but then these guys would have less money......

the Committee on Commerce (the ones who introduced the bill): campaign donations from 2012


•Sen. Julia Lynn (R), Chairperson: AT&T ($1,750), Comcast ($1,500), CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Susan Wagle (R), Vice-Chair: Cox Communications ($1,750), AT&T ($1,500), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($1,250), Comcast ($1,000), CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Tom Holland (D), Ranking Member: AT&T ($1,000);
•Sen. Pat Apple (R): AT&T ($1,000), Comcast ($1,000), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($250), Time Warner Cable ($250), Verizon ($250), CenturyLink ($250);
•Sen. Jim Denning (R): CenturyLink ($250);
•Sen. Oletha Faust-Goudeau (D): AT&T ($1,000), Cox Communications ($1000), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($250);
•Sen. Jeff Longbine (R): AT&T ($2,000), CenturyLink ($1,750), Cox Communications ($500);
•Sen. Jeff Melcher (R): CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Robert Olson (R): AT&T ($1,750), Comcast ($1,500), CenturyLink ($1,250), Cox Communications ($750);
•Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook (R): Comcast ($1,000).
While I think this bill is nonsense, I would be curious as to how these figures compare to every other legislator.
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Old 01-31-2014, 11:04 AM   #348
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but then these guys would have less money......

the Committee on Commerce (the ones who introduced the bill): campaign donations from 2012


•Sen. Julia Lynn (R), Chairperson: AT&T ($1,750), Comcast ($1,500), CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Susan Wagle (R), Vice-Chair: Cox Communications ($1,750), AT&T ($1,500), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($1,250), Comcast ($1,000), CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Tom Holland (D), Ranking Member: AT&T ($1,000);
•Sen. Pat Apple (R): AT&T ($1,000), Comcast ($1,000), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($250), Time Warner Cable ($250), Verizon ($250), CenturyLink ($250);
•Sen. Jim Denning (R): CenturyLink ($250);
•Sen. Oletha Faust-Goudeau (D): AT&T ($1,000), Cox Communications ($1000), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($250);
•Sen. Jeff Longbine (R): AT&T ($2,000), CenturyLink ($1,750), Cox Communications ($500);
•Sen. Jeff Melcher (R): CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Robert Olson (R): AT&T ($1,750), Comcast ($1,500), CenturyLink ($1,250), Cox Communications ($750);
•Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook (R): Comcast ($1,000).
Exactly................
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Old 01-31-2014, 11:06 AM   #349
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While I think this bill is nonsense, I would be curious as to how these figures compare to every other legislator.
probably on par. point being,(as mentioned a moment ago by Kepp) lobbying should be done away with. Since thats not happening EVER.... you need to fight fire with fire. Google has giant coffers and they should use it to counteract this.

Or just hope it never floats or gains any real steam.
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Old 01-31-2014, 11:41 AM   #350
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:30 PM   #351
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- Stream wireless video content to multiple devices (TV, computer, tablet, phone) at the same time
- Watch said video with no lag or freezing
- Get crystal clear, sharp TV
- Get reliable, modern service (Time Warner cable's tech in Brookside is awful and was constantly failing)
- Run my work-from-home office with much less of a bottleneck than I previously did. A lot is made of the 1 gig download speed, but the 300 megabit upload speed is a godsend to ANYONE who has to connect remotely to a network through VPN (since your D/L through VPN is limited to your upload speed). I throw around huge files (PowerPoint, Word, image) all day. This makes a big difference.
- Run online multiplayer games with no lag on my end
I can do all of these things with my 30Mbit ethernet connection. The kids watch movies on their tablets or iPods, the MiL streams movies in her bedroom, the wife is on Facebook, and I am working via SSL VPN, all at the same time. I can also use VoIP for work while one of the kids is watching a program from the Sling at a friend's house.

I have almost 60 devices on my network, and any 10 of them might be using media services on the Internet at any given time. All over a 30Mbit connection.

All of the things you listed aren't unique to Google fiber nor do you need 1Gig/300M connections to do what you are doing. Of course, normal cable/DSL can't do these things but it doesn't change the fact that 1Gig is way overkill.
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:32 PM   #352
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but then these guys would have less money......

the Committee on Commerce (the ones who introduced the bill): campaign donations from 2012


•Sen. Julia Lynn (R), Chairperson: AT&T ($1,750), Comcast ($1,500), CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Susan Wagle (R), Vice-Chair: Cox Communications ($1,750), AT&T ($1,500), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($1,250), Comcast ($1,000), CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Tom Holland (D), Ranking Member: AT&T ($1,000);
•Sen. Pat Apple (R): AT&T ($1,000), Comcast ($1,000), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($250), Time Warner Cable ($250), Verizon ($250), CenturyLink ($250);
•Sen. Jim Denning (R): CenturyLink ($250);
•Sen. Oletha Faust-Goudeau (D): AT&T ($1,000), Cox Communications ($1000), Kansas Cable Telecommunication Association ($250);
•Sen. Jeff Longbine (R): AT&T ($2,000), CenturyLink ($1,750), Cox Communications ($500);
•Sen. Jeff Melcher (R): CenturyLink ($1,000);
•Sen. Robert Olson (R): AT&T ($1,750), Comcast ($1,500), CenturyLink ($1,250), Cox Communications ($750);
•Sen. Mary Pilcher-Cook (R): Comcast ($1,000).
Google gives money to candidates as well.
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:38 PM   #353
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of course they do. but why attempt legislation now? why not put in a law that says states cant offer tax incentives to bring a business across state lines? of course this would be to ensure the sanctity of free commerce and competition...right?

the hearing on this is slated for Tuesday at 8:30 am. hopefully that will be the end of it.
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I can do all of these things with my 30Mbit ethernet connection. The kids watch movies on their tablets or iPods, the MiL streams movies in her bedroom, the wife is on Facebook, and I am working via SSL VPN, all at the same time. I can also use VoIP for work while one of the kids is watching a program from the Sling at a friend's house.

I have almost 60 devices on my network, and any 10 of them might be using media services on the Internet at any given time. All over a 30Mbit connection.

All of the things you listed aren't unique to Google fiber nor do you need 1Gig/300M connections to do what you are doing. Of course, normal cable/DSL can't do these things but it doesn't change the fact that 1Gig is way overkill.
Future proofing???
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:40 PM   #355
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of course they do. but why attempt legislation now? why not put in a law that says states cant offer tax incentives to bring a business across state lines? of course this would be to ensure the sanctity of free commerce and competition...right?

the hearing on this is slated for Tuesday at 8:30 am. hopefully that will be the end of it.
I agree on all those points.

Just don't kid yourself, this isn't charity. Google is one of the dirtiest companies in the business.
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Old 01-31-2014, 12:48 PM   #356
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I agree on all those points.

Just don't kid yourself, this isn't charity. Google is one of the dirtiest companies in the business.
no worries on that my friend. im not drinking cool-aid with rose colored glasses. i just dont like the sound of the bill is all.
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I can do all of these things with my 30Mbit ethernet connection. The kids watch movies on their tablets or iPods, the MiL streams movies in her bedroom, the wife is on Facebook, and I am working via SSL VPN, all at the same time. I can also use VoIP for work while one of the kids is watching a program from the Sling at a friend's house.

I have almost 60 devices on my network, and any 10 of them might be using media services on the Internet at any given time. All over a 30Mbit connection.

All of the things you listed aren't unique to Google fiber nor do you need 1Gig/300M connections to do what you are doing. Of course, normal cable/DSL can't do these things but it doesn't change the fact that 1Gig is way overkill.
Why should I have a car that goes 85mph when all I need to do is 65mph? I'm on a 250 connection now and I see the benefits over the 25mb connection I had. When I do download something, I have it in 10 minutes rather than an hour. Do I need to have it that quick? No. But if I can why wouldn't I? Especially since my 250mb connection is priced the same as my 25mb connection was.
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Why should I have a car that goes 85mph when all I need to do is 65mph? I'm on a 250 connection now and I see the benefits over the 25mb connection I had. When I do download something, I have it in 10 minutes rather than an hour. Do I need to have it that quick? No. But if I can why wouldn't I? Especially since my 250mb connection is priced the same as my 25mb connection was.
Because at some point, the prevalence of those 250Mb connections will reach the point of diminishing returns, where you're introducing new bottlenecks upstream and affecting the performance of everybody, including yourself.

Bandwidth isn't unlimited.
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Because at some point, the prevalence of those 250Mb connections will reach the point of diminishing returns, where you're introducing new bottlenecks upstream and affecting the performance of everybody, including yourself.

Bandwidth isn't unlimited.

Even if that is true, why would that make this bill a good thing for the public? You know the government is supposed to work for the good of its citizens right?
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